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British Army Training Unit Suffield (BATUS)
"A British Army unit located at the vast training area of Canadian Forces Base Suffield near Suffield, Alberta, Canada.
BATUS is the British Army's largest armoured training facility and it can accommodate live-firing and tactical effect simulation (TES) exercises up to battle group level...

...In 2006...the British and Canadian governments concluded an agreement that will allow British forces to maintain their training practices in Canada indefinitely...

...Due to the hostile winters, BATUS conducts training from May to October each year. This normally consists of 4 to 6 battlegroups (BGs) each exercising for around 24 days each..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_Training_Unit_Suff...





who knew! surprise
Seriously I had never heard of this. Does anyone have any cool stories?
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rgordon44 wrote:


who knew! surprise


Been drunk there many times; they celebrate Robbie Burns like nobody's business.

Do you know what GATES was?
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GATES?
No.

Drunk? They wiki make BATUS sound like the most desolate place on earth??
 
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Seriously I had never heard of this. Does anyone have any cool stories?


Rotten editor, you threw that in while I was typing.

This may offend some, which is not the intent, but will reveal something about how times have changed. Three of us Canadians, if I recall correctly, were closing out the bar after one of the Robbie Burns nights I mentioned. This was 20 years ago more or less. All of the guests had left save one or two stalwarts, I expect it was 2 or 3 in the morning. A fellow, I believe W.O.II or possibly W.O.I who was well oiled by that point was telling us about how they handled the "problem" of homosexuals in their unit; they simply threw them out of a second story window.

I thought it was poignant because the good warrant officer, with pronounced West-country accent (I don't recall the regiment though I think it was one of the armoured units), was a negro, i.e. a visible minority.

It was probably a year or so after we in Canada started permitting women to wear the kilt and serve as infantry soldiers, at least in the reserves. It was a confusing time. I can't remember when the restriction on homosexuals was lifted, but I believe it was about the same time, and most certainly before the British. At any rate, we listened to him with grains of salt and concerned ourselves more with our brilliant plan on how to find the tank park before breakfast. Which never came to fruition; mostly we just ended up rolling the bass drum back to the barracks and passing out.

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rgordon44 wrote:
GATES?
No.

Drunk? They wiki make BATUS sound like the most desolate place on earth??


German Army Training Establishment Shilo.

The West German Army had more tanks in Manitoba than the Canadian Army had in all the world.

Once upon a time.

The Luftwaffe had Phantom jets in Goose Bay, also.
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rgordon44 wrote:
GATES?
No.

Drunk? They wiki make BATUS sound like the most desolate place on earth??


I've trained at Suffield. When you get off a helicopter in the training area, as I have, and you see a single tree and nothing but horizon in any direction, well - the wiki is pretty accurate. I'm sure others who have spent more time there will tell you the same. The Brits used it for desert training because of the prairie terrain.
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Liquid Courage flows free and loose at 2am...cool

Found a Google Street View image of BATUS, one can see the various tanks and APC's.

What are the red painted vehicles?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.273333,-111.175&ll=50.27494...
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rgordon44 wrote:
Liquid Courage flows free and loose at 2am...cool

Found a Google Street View image of BATUS, one can see the various tanks and APC's.

What are the red painted vehicles?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.273333,-111.175&ll=50.27494...


I'm not seeing them right off, but guessing off the top of my head they are British Army Range Control vehicles.
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"drive" north a bit, last motorpool
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rgordon44 wrote:
"drive" north a bit, last motorpool


Oh, THOSE.

I honestly don't know.

PS - great OpSec, that Google Street View provides.

PPS - Google Search, on the other hand....is a blabber mouth too

http://www.pg-models.com/viewdetail.aspx?id=50

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Some of the Range Safety FV432s at BATUS had their upper hulls painted bright red.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1067609335/somet...





Other safety vehicles:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1067860709/BATUS...


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Here's a photo from my collection I took - no digital cameras then, just crappy instamatics, at least for me.

And an article on our regimental website of the activity - Exercise HIGHLAND RAIDER.

http://calgaryhighlanders.com/photos/1990s/1998highlandraide...

Time flies when you're having fun. Seems like yesterday.

Nothing but prairie and sky to look at.



Second photo, taken from inside a CH-146 Griffon helicopter. It isn't the desert, but it is a reasonable facsimile for tactical training.
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rgordon44 wrote:
They wiki make BATUS sound like the most desolate place on earth??


Places that are available for mechanized training tend to be pretty desolate to begin with. Otherwise, you'd have real problems getting the land.

Here's one of the American equivalents...
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With over 1000 square miles (2590 km²) for maneuver and ranges, an uncluttered electromagnetic spectrum, airspace restricted to military use, and its isolation from densely populated areas, Fort Irwin was an ideal site for this facility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Irwin_National_Training_Ce...

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