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I know FFG has made it a matter of pride that the TIE Fighters are actually at the correct scale, supposedly a first in the world of miniature games. But when I look at this pic of the next wave, I'm shocked that Slave 1 is that big... it's just as big as the Falcon.



Look at the size of Slave 1's cockpit compared to the Falcon's... the latter's can hold 4 people but it looks much smaller than Slave 1's, which I think only holds 2.

Anyone know if this Slave 1 figure is truly to scale with the rest?
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Reaper Steve wrote:
Anyone know if this Slave 1 figure is truly to scale with the rest?

I believe that it is. That was one of the first questions I asked myself when I found out it was a medium sized ship in X-Wing.

They are trying to hold to scale and have actual LFL data. Blame Kenner for giving us a Slave i Toy out of scale so many years ago. The cockpit looked like it was just big enough for one man when in reality, it is an entire command center made more evident in the prequels.
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Slave 1 is approximately 21x21x8m
Falcon is approximately 34x26x8m
Tie Interceptor is approximately 9.5m in length
A-Wing is approximately 9.6m length, 6.5m wide & 3m tall

Scale looks okay to my eyeball
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slave_I

Slave I is supposed to be big enough house a large array of weapons, a very good sensor/tracking system, a hyperdrive, cockpit, living area, and holding cells. And enough engines to make that maneuverable.

Given all that, it sounds comparable to the YT-1300, which should replace some of that with space for cargo.
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It might look bigger since it's standing upright while the falcon is laying down. If the falcon was standing upright, it'd probably look a lot bigger.

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Yeah, they're actually pretty comparable in size, if not shape. You can compare them a little better here:
http://www.merzo.net/
at one of the most awesome little websites on the net, "Starship Dimensions".
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The venerable Wookieepedia has the two ship listed with the following dimensions:

Millennium Falcon - 34.37 meters long x 25.61 meters wide
Slave 1 - 21.5 meters long x 21.3 meters wide

Looks like FFG got it right to me.
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admanwebb wrote:
The venerable Wookieepedia has the two ship listed with the following dimensions:

Millennium Falcon - 34.37 meters long x 25.61 meters wide
Slave 1 - 21.5 meters long x 21.3 meters wide

Looks like FFG got it right to me.


OK, so if we saw them both from the top down (with Slave 1 in the landed position), then we should expect their widths to be roughly the same but the Falcon would be ~150% longer in the long axis (21.5m vs. 34.4m).

Saying it another way, if we were to stand the Falcon on end next to Slave 1, the front would be touching the base and the engines would stick up higher that the top of Slave 1. If so... that's a big fig!
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That is an exciting thought, but not as exciting as FFG saying that those are "medium sized ships" in the grand scheme of the game
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admanwebb wrote:
That is an exciting thought, but not as exciting as FFG saying that those are "medium sized ships" in the grand scheme of the game


Yeah, I read "medium sized ships" and started thinking... will they have large and extra-large sized ships?

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admanwebb wrote:
That is an exciting thought, but not as exciting as FFG saying that those are "medium sized ships" in the grand scheme of the game

I don't know. I am not keen to see the "large" price tag with "medium" at $30 MSRP.

These look to be about 2x2 bases compared to the small bases. My guess is that 3x3 would be the max on "large" or possible something rectangular in a 2x3 or 2x4 configuration.

What would that be? Cruisers? I don't think we would ever see Star Destroyers in plastic form.
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Just for reference, here is a side by side of the ships...





As a kid, playing with the Kenner toys, I always thought the 'cockpit' was just a single person thing (in Salve 1), but after seeing the new movies and realizing there was a lot of stuff in that ship, it seems better seeing it so big compared to the falcon now.
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admanwebb wrote:
That is an exciting thought, but not as exciting as FFG saying that those are "medium sized ships" in the grand scheme of the game

I don't know. I am not keen to see the "large" price tag with "medium" at $30 MSRP.

These look to be about 2x2 bases compared to the small bases. My guess is that 3x3 would be the max on "large" or possible something rectangular in a 2x3 or 2x4 configuration.

What would that be? Cruisers? I don't think we would ever see Star Destroyers in plastic form.


Using the same scale, an Imperial-class Star Destroyer would only be 47 times as long as the Falcon. It's doable...
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FFG should make an inflatable Star Destroyer.
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admanwebb wrote:
Using the same scale, an Imperial-class Star Destroyer would only be 47 times as long as the Falcon. It's doable...


the length would only be about 6m, you will need a larger table to play on
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I don't even want to play this game, but I must have the falcon. It looks awesome!
 
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beorthulf wrote:
admanwebb wrote:
Using the same scale, an Imperial-class Star Destroyer would only be 47 times as long as the Falcon. It's doable...


the length would only be about 6m, you will need a larger table to play on


I don't care if it's not quite up to scale (It's about 1:1700 rather than 1:270), I am so using my Lego Star Destroyer for this game!
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Yeah, my first thought was "I REALLY want a Star Destroyer," then realized it would be something like half the size of my living room...
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Sooooo........ What does that make the in-game dimensions of a super star destroyer? Also, is there an appropriately sized sphere in the world for use as a Death Star? Maybe the Epcot center?
 
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Sooooo........ What does that make the in-game dimensions of a super star destroyer? Also, is there an appropriately sized sphere in the world for use as a Death Star? Maybe the Epcot center?


29.6 meters, or about 97 feet long, for the 8km SSD.

Spaceship Earth (the sphere at Epcot Center) is only 180ft tall or about 12% of the 1456 ft required to have the proper scale of a 120km Death Star (DS2 was bigger).
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solidhavok wrote:
Sooooo........ What does that make the in-game dimensions of a super star destroyer?

This thread is awesome: List of common starships with scale
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FFG should make an inflatable Star Destroyer.


Genius! :laugh:
 
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frogimus wrote:
Well, if they do make a Star Destroyer, it could double as the storage/transport system for the rest of the ships


If the scale size is 6m, it could double as a transport system for you, as well as all the ships. I was joking with my GF that we could use her car as a stand-in for a star destroyer, it looks like I was about a metre or so short, I sense a project in the making for someone...
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I think this image solves the scale debate once and for all

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philwoodphoto/6462459329/
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http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101002211112/starwar...

This should give a better idea of scale.
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