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Chris Friend
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Since I purchased CC just over a month ago, and checking out this great forum nearly everyday, I've seen many threads and photos regarding card sleeves, clipped counters, card and counter storage solutions etc., but have not seen anything regarding a card shuffler machine. I'm not very good at shuffling, don't enjoy it at all, and am thinking one of these things would be good to have. Does anyone here use one with CC?
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Don't do it. Card shufflers can and do damage cards regularly, and most aren't designed to handle the different paper weight of card games. If anything, sleeve them and do the side shuffle. with sleeves all you have to do is cut the deck and mix the cards together at the sides.

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Yes I did and it was invaluable.
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Sleeves speed up shuffling a great deal. Simply separate the cards into two stacks and push the stacks into each other. Note that you will need to have some nice sleeves to do this (penny sleeves won't cut it.)
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Renaissance Man wrote:
Sleeves speed up shuffling a great deal. Simply separate the cards into two stacks and push the stacks into each other. Note that you will need to have some nice sleeves to do this (penny sleeves won't cut it.)


I second this.
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Walt and I used a card shuffler for almost a year until Walt's parkinson's disease worsened, making it impossible for him to load the cards into it by himself.

It did slightly bend a card once, but not horribly, was still useable afterwards without any trouble.

After Walt couldn't use it to shuffle, I just shuffled for both of us, as I LIKE to riffle shuffle.

Chick

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chicklewis wrote:
Walt and I used a card shuffler for almost a year until Walt's parkinson's disease worsened, making it impossible for him to load the cards into it by himself.

It did slightly bend a card once, but not horribly, was still useable afterwards without any trouble.

After Walt couldn't use it to shuffle, I just shuffled for both of us, as I LIKE to riffle shuffle.

Chick

I'm afraid I would have to shuffle for Chick if he came to my house and played. It's okay Chick, I don't mind.
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Is riffle shuffle a new dance?laugh
 
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You don't cycle through each player deck that often in CC. I'd just deal the to-be-shuffled cards out into 5 or more piles and count it as a shuffle. It is probably at least as good as a simple riffle shuffle, and it makes for a timely pee-or-beer break, too.

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Appreciate the input guys. I'm still undecided but if I do decide to get one, and end up not liking it, I'll be out maybe 15 bucks. Not the most I've ever wasted.
Thanks again.
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I would not use one on a game like CC: E. The reason is that is harder to get the cards replaced if they are damaged. I have tried card shufflers in the past with mixed results. Luckily I try them out on games easily replaced. The first I tried was a shuffler I paid $29.95 for and the cards I put into it was a Coloretto deck. It shuffled the cards well but bent about 10 of them in the process. Next I tried my friends $14.95 shuffler that he swore by. He showed me how good it was on a standard deck of poker sized cards and it worked perfectly several times. So he wanted to play Bang! and fed his cards into the machine. It promptly creased all of the cards. I then tried a "professional" shuffler when I went to Las Vegas. The guy at the shop selling it said it was awesome and never damaged cards that he knew of. It cost around $150 but, based on past experience, I was still not sure. He ran some decks of casino cards through it and it did fine. I knew I would be looking for a machine on my trip, so I brought a deck of easily replaced Magic cards with me to test it out. The guy said go for it and I put them in the hopper and pressed the button. It creased about half of them. The guy at the store raised an eyebrow and I told him I think I will pass.

I would say that card shufflers are good, as long as you are using standard playing cards in them. It appears to me that ANY difference in the manufacturing process could result in more than a few damaged cards. It also doesn't appear to make any difference with regards to cost.

Sorry for the long post. I had some experience with card shufflers and just wanted to share it. I always REALLY wanted a card shuffler that would work, but it appears to me that they have not acheived it yet.
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Guys, none of you has yet produced the most obvious and elegant solution: hire a pro card shuffler. There is one active on this very same thread: Chick Lewis. Chick has a worldwide experience as a shuffler, shuffles CC decks fast and perfect, never damages cards, is retired and has a lot of time, and, hear this, loves to travel. The only problem is that he will also play CC with you, and beat you all the time.
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Nice one, Simone.

For 2013 I'll volunteer to shuffle for a limited time for any players in our planned tourist destinations; Peru and/or Chinese Turkestan.
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Chick, could people mail you their cards to shuffle, if they pay for the return postage?
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When I really want to shuffle a sleeved deck, I dump the cards into a paper grocery sack and thoroughly mix them around with my hand. Then, I dump the cards out, turn them all face down, mix them around a bit more then get the cards stacked up again.

Kind of an analog way to do it, and takes some time, but the cards get mixed around quite well.
 
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russ wrote:
Chick, could people mail you their cards to shuffle, if they pay for the return postage?


Surprise! Chick will bring along all his decks; he only shuffles/plays his own.
 
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Professorelm wrote:
russ wrote:
Chick, could people mail you their cards to shuffle, if they pay for the return postage?


Surprise! Chick will bring along all his decks; he only shuffles/plays his own.


Yeah, ever since "Fernando..."
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