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the "official" start of Stalingrad being August 23rd...

Time has a small photo collection of the city taken in 1947, 5 years after the battle. Unbelievable how devasted it still is, but I guess for most of those 5 years the Soviets still had a war to win:

http://life.time.com/history/stalingrad-1947-a-world-in-piec...
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Unbelievable how devasted it still is, but I guess for most of those 5 years the Soviets still had a war to win


There was that tricky post-war 'enslave half a continent' phase that probably distracted from the reconstruction.
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There was that tricky post-war 'enslave half a continent' phase that probably distracted from the reconstruction.


We like to call it project: redecorate Europe.
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Three years ago I worked with a very nice woman from Russia. One day we were chatting about our home towns, and she said "I'm from a big industrial city, but you've probably never heard of it. It's called Volgograd."
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Three years ago I worked with a very nice woman from Russia. One day we were chatting about our home towns, and she said "I'm from a big industrial city, but you've probably never heard of it. It's called Volgograd."


Had you heard of it?

Don't leave us hanging, I need anecdote closure.
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UniqueRabbit wrote:
Time has a small photo collection of the city taken in 1947, 5 years after the battle. Unbelievable how devasted it still is, but I guess for most of those 5 years the Soviets still had a war to win

I recently watched a TV feature on the 1948 Olympics in London, and there was quite an emphasis on how visitors marvelled at the destruction from the wartime bombings that was still in evidence. I don't think London suffered nearly the pounding that Stalingrad did, so if London was still a mess in '48, it doesn't surprise me that Stalingrad was a year earlier.
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taragalinas wrote:
HarlemMimeSchool wrote:
There was that tricky post-war 'enslave half a continent' phase that probably distracted from the reconstruction.


We like to call it project: redecorate Europe.


"Extreme Extended Makeover"
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HarlemMimeSchool wrote:
There was that tricky post-war 'enslave half a continent' phase that probably distracted from the reconstruction.


How do explain all of the rubble that hadn't been cleared away in England, France, and Italy? And all of the building that hadn't been rebuilt? The only reason that Paris was in good shape is that it had been declared an open city.

The Nazis certainly seem to deserve some of the blame. They destroyed a lot of industrial equipment and production that might have replaced it had to be diverted to producing arms instead (an economic deadweight loss).

Finally, this theory would need to demonstrate that Eastern Europe actually absorbed so much of the Soviet leadership's attention that they could not even tell the bureaucracy to work on reconstruction. Or that keeping hold of Eastern Europe required so much construction equipment that there wasn't enough available to rebuild the Soviet Union, which seems like a truly odd strategic decision.
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elbmc1969 wrote:
HarlemMimeSchool wrote:
There was that tricky post-war 'enslave half a continent' phase that probably distracted from the reconstruction.


The only reason that Paris was in good shape is that it had been declared an open city.


Well Hitler did order the better part of Paris dynamited instead of handing it over intact, but the HGIC (Head German in Charge) wisely ignored the order.

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UniqueRabbit wrote:


Well Hitler did order the better part of Paris dynamited instead of handing it over intact, but the HGIC (Head German in Charge) wisely ignored the order.



"Is Paris Burning" Both good movie and good book been so long since I read or watched can't remember how much of the movie was BS. But I do remember that the DVD version I have is missing a few scenes from some earlier version I watched.
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Complete with Gert Frobe, Mr. Auric Goldfinger himself, as the Paris CIC.
 
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