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David Oldster
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At a high estimate, I win maybe 10% of the games I play.

There are people in my gaming groups who focus in, with laserlike intentness, min/maxing like mad, looking for ways to eke out that extra point for the final scoring round.

I like winning, but I like exploring the game mechanics and the social aspect a lot more. Also the overall "gamer high" I get when I experience the pleasure of playing what (for me) is a satisfying game design.

Am I alone in this attitude? I mean, when you get right down to the end of it, unless you're playing chess with Death in a Bergman film, it's just a game.
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I play games for the social experience. I don't play them to win, I play them to have a great time. I try to win, don't get me wrong, to the point of sometimes being competitive, but I would rather take my turn in 30 seconds and play 2-3 games a session laughing and having fun with my friends then take 3 minutes each turn to plan the optimal move while only having time for 1 game instead and with all of us in such deep concentration that we cannot afford to talk, insult, and enjoy each other's company.

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Call me weird, but I actually enjoy teaching someone a game and seeing THEM win. It usually means I taught them well and it also usually means they enjoyed the game I introduced to them. But the NEXT time we play that same game, I may be a little more aggressive.
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You're not alone.

I don't min-max or overthink the game I am playing. I am more of a laid back fool around and have fun kind of player. So my more strategy-minded friends often win. Since they don't mind my playing style, and there are other strategy-minded players at the table so they still feel challenged, we are all happy when we play.

When I win, it's usually a game with random results being the key factor and it is often hilarious. for example, we were playing HACK! once and a player wondered out loud if it was possible to win on the very first turn. We rolled to see who went first and I won. I laid down the Inner Chamber of Vectra room, moved into it then rolled to see if I could find the Hand of Vectra ('cause I had that item card in my hand as well), found it then rolled to see if I could use it or if I would die...I rolled successfully, used the hand and won the game. Then I looked up and said "Yep, you can." Hehee

Sometimes the dice love me, but usually they prefer to mess with me.
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SkyShadow38 wrote:
You're not alone.

I don't min-max or overthink the game I am playing. I am more of a laid back fool around and have fun kind of player. So my more strategy-minded friends often win. Since they don't mind my playing style, and there are other strategy-minded players at the table so they still feel challenged, we are all happy when we play.


This is the way it works out in games I play too. It's a good situation.
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I seem to win only about 5-10% of the games I play. I do try to play thoughtfully so I can win. I do enjoy the challenge. But I don't sweat over every move as if it were the gaming Olympics or as if my reputation or self-esteem depended on it. I'm not a sore loser.

I don't have a very competitive nature. I do kick myself a bit when I make a careless error and I try to learn from each game I play. And I enjoy a bit of a "gaming high" when I do win a game. laugh

I guess at least 50% of the reason I enjoy gaming is for the food social interaction. I'm the kind of person who would quickly lose interest if I were playing with people who were very competitive and very intense and serious about gaming. Lucky for me, nobody in my gaming group is like that. We have tons of laughs and nobody is a sore loser. There are a few people who seem to win most of the time but they are gracious winners.

And the food is good!
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Damien Seb. ●leoskyangel●
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I play games not to win, it's the gathering that's important - Thanks for the tip Cate108!
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Same here. Playing boardgame to win isn't my main agenda. I enjoy learning, teaching, and introducing games to people. The social aspect that surrounds the gaming table is what I'm more interested in. Each time I win a game, I wholeheartedly blame the luck. Usually, when it's my turn to move, I tend not to over analyze and try to get my turn done asap.

I'm ok with competitive people, but those who's over competitive can be annoyed for me, moreover if he brags his victory.

- Damien

p/s even my overhead text says "I play games not(x) to win"
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I play games to enjoy myself. Sometimes that involves winning, but most times it doesn't.
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Yep, same here. I enjoy the playing - winning is just a bonus.
That's the reason I don't play CCG's - it became too difficult to enjoy them.
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riastradh wrote:
Yep, same here. I enjoy the playing - winning is just a bonus.
That's the reason I don't play CCG's - it became too difficult to enjoy them.


I was just thinking of CCGs. Magic the Gathering (my old one) got to be too much about winning the match and getting the next great card. That's why I quit them as well.
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I like winning. I try very hard to win every game and appreciate my opponents doing the same.

I don't get upset when I lose. I very much appreciate my opponents behaving the same.
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I'm with you 100%. There are some games I win more often and others that I get my rump kicked in on a regular basis. I love them all.
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I too would rather lose and have fun then win and be bored. I play games with old friends I don't see that much, and the social nature and catching up is what makes game nights so fun.

That said, I do like games to be competitive, but that doesn't mean cutthroat. I mean close scores with the lead changing frequently.
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fur94 wrote:
I too would rather lose and have fun then win and be bored. I play games with old friends I don't see that much, and the social nature and catching up is what makes game nights so fun.

That said, I do like games to be competitive, but that doesn't mean cutthroat. I mean close scores with the lead changing frequently.


Yeah, I play at "my best". Which is a variable, depending on the game, amount of sleep I've had, number of snacks available...
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To me, if you're playing a competitive game you should try to win.

That doesn't mean you can't experiment with different moves and strategies. It doesn't mean you should focus every mental effort on winning at all costs, and consider every single strategic possibility in exhaustive depth. And it certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't have fun with your friends.

I play to have fun, and I enjoy chatting and socialising while doing so. But I also want to win. If I don't win, I won't take it poorly, because I'm a grown-up.

But if I didn't try to win, I'd feel I wasn't playing the game properly, and if I'm not going to bother playing properly, why play at all? There are plenty of other social activities.

I'm not saying you should make the best effort you can every turn. Just make some effort, so you're not taking the piss -- IMO, that's disrespectful to the other players.

I don't think I'm actually disagreeing with the OP that much, though! I wouldn't have much interest in trying to "focus in, with laserlike intentness, min/maxing like mad, looking for ways to eke out that extra point for the final scoring round" either!
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You and me...We're in this together now...None of them can stop us now...We will make it through somehow
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I like to win, but I also enjoy the "thrill of losing." By that, I mean the tension, experience, and education that come from putting in a good effort that results in a loss can all be worthwhile.

Not as worthwhile as win, but still...
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esirof wrote:
I like to win, but I also enjoy the "thrill of losing." By that, I mean the tension, experience, and education that come from putting in a good effort that results in a loss can all be worthwhile.

Not as worthwhile as win, but still...


Funny, I find an educational loss far more valuable than a win. With losses, I can pin point where I screwed up, and adjust accordingly.

But to answer the OP, no you are far from alone. I try to eke out what I can and win. I'm always trying to calculate what the optimal move is, but its a rare few games that require "laser like" focus to do that. Most, can be played jovially and socially, while still making the best possible effort to win.
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I like to win, but most of the games I play over and over and over are the ones I don't win as often. The games that I win too easily tend to be too boring for me. I guess I like a challenge. Although losing all the time isn't good either.
 
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