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From http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/rtd-opinion/2012/aug/19/t...

The past several weeks have made one thing crystal-clear: Our country faces unmitigated disaster if the Other Side wins.

No reasonably intelligent person can deny this. All you have to do is look at the way the Other Side has been running its campaign. Instead of focusing on the big issues that are important to the American People, it has fired a relentlessly negative barrage of distortions, misrepresentations and flat-out lies.

Just look at the Other Side's latest commercial, which take a perfectly reasonable statement by the candidate for My Side completely out of context to make it seem as if he is saying something nefarious. This just shows you how desperate the Other Side is and how willing it is to mislead the American People.

The Other Side also has been hammering away at My Side to release certain documents that have nothing to do with anything, and making all sorts of outrageous accusations about what might be in them. Meanwhile, the Other Side has stonewalled perfectly reasonable requests to release its own documents that would expose some very embarrassing details if anybody ever found out what was in them. This just shows you what a bunch of hypocrites they are.

Naturally, the media won't report any of this. Major newspapers and cable networks jump all over anything they think will make My Side Look bad. Yet they completely ignore critically important and incredibly relevant information that would be devastating to The Other Side if it could ever be verified.

I will admit the candidates for My Side do make occasional blunders. These usually happen at the end of exhausting 19-hour days and are perfectly understandable. Our leaders are only human, after all. Nevertheless, the Other Side inevitably makes a big fat deal out of these trivial gaffes, while completely ignoring its own candidates' incredibly thoughtless and stupid remarks — remarks that reveal the Other Side's true nature, which is genuinely frightening.

My Side has produced a visionary program that will get the economy moving, put the American People back to work, strengthen national security, return fiscal integrity to Washington, and restore our standing in the international community. What does the Other Side have to offer? Nothing but the same old disproven, discredited policies that got us into our current mess in the first place.

Don't take my word for it, though. I recently read about an analysis by an independent, nonpartisan organization that supports My Side. It proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that everything I have been saying about the Other Side was true all along. Of course, the Other Side refuses to acknowledge any of this. It is too busy cranking out so-called studies by so-called experts who are actually nothing but partisan hacks. This just shows you that the Other Side lives in its own little echo chamber and refuses to listen to anyone who has not already drunk its Kool-Aid.

Let's face it: The Other Side is held hostage by a radical, failed ideology. I have been doing some research on the Internet, and I have learned this ideology was developed by a very obscure but nonetheless profoundly influential writer with a strange-sounding name who enjoyed brief celebrity several decades ago. If you look carefully, you can trace nearly all the Other Side's policies for the past half-century back to the writings of this one person.

To be sure, the Other Side also has been influenced by its powerful supporters. These include a reclusive billionaire who has funded a number of organizations far outside the political mainstream; several politicians who have said outrageous things over the years; and an alarmingly large number of completely clueless ordinary Americans who are being used as tools and don't even know it.

These people are really pathetic, too. The other day I saw a YouTube video in which My Side sent an investigator and a cameraman to a rally being held by the Other Side, where the investigator proceeded to ask some real zingers. It was hilarious! First off, the people at the rally wore T-shirts with all kinds of lame messages that they actually thought were really clever. Plus, many of the people who were interviewed were overweight, sweaty, flushed and generally not very attractive. But what was really funny was how stupid they were. There is no way anyone could watch that video and not come away convinced the people on My Side are smarter, and that My Side is therefore right about everything.

Besides, it's clear that the people on the Other Side are driven by mindless anger — unlike My Side, which is filled with passionate idealism and righteous indignation. That indignation, I hasten to add, is entirely justified. I have read several articles in publications that support My Side that expose what a truly dangerous group the Other Side is, and how thoroughly committed it is to imposing its radical, failed agenda on the rest of us.

That is why I believe 2012 is, without a doubt, the defining election of our lifetime. The difference between My Side and the Other Side could not be greater. That is why it absolutely must win on November 6.
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Yes. Cooperation and compromise are outdated and thoroughly discredited. It's no way to run a democracy.
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tesuji wrote:
Yes. Cooperation and compromise are outdated and thoroughly discredited. It's no way to run a democracy.


Hey we have a coalition government and its full of total tits.
 
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My favorite is an ad that I see (without sound) in the gym most mornings. It seems to be an attack ad attacking Obama for his attack ads.
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Shhhhhh...Don't disturb our continued balkanization though anomie.

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chaendlmaier wrote:
Who is the other side?


The one that isn't my side of course!
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Each side claiming the Other Side has a failed ideology may be the one thing both sides are right about.

Third Party 2012!
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bjlillo wrote:
rshipley wrote:
chaendlmaier wrote:
Who is the other side?


The one that isn't my side of course!


Rich is on the other side. I'm on the good side.


No way! I don't want to be on your side, but I sure as shit don't want to be on Rich's side either.
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djgutierrez77 wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
rshipley wrote:
chaendlmaier wrote:
Who is the other side?


The one that isn't my side of course!


Rich is on the other side. I'm on the good side.


No way! I don't want to be on your side, but I sure as shit don't want to be on Rich's side either.

Join me on the Dark Side where we get awesome one-liners and cooler costumes and make-up.
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whac3 wrote:
djgutierrez77 wrote:
bjlillo wrote:
rshipley wrote:
chaendlmaier wrote:
Who is the other side?


The one that isn't my side of course!


Rich is on the other side. I'm on the good side.


No way! I don't want to be on your side, but I sure as shit don't want to be on Rich's side either.

Join me on the Dark Side where we get awesome one-linears and cooler costumes and make-up.

I'm in! Who do we rant at?
 
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djgutierrez77 wrote:
whac3 wrote:

Join me on the Dark Side where we get awesome one-linears and cooler costumes and make-up.

I'm in! Who do we rant at?

Does it matter? We rant!
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whac3 wrote:
Join me on the Dark Side where we get awesome one-linears and cooler costumes and make-up.
I don't like the sound of these "one-linears."
Sounds suspiciously like stealth geometry.
And I will have none of that!

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whac3 wrote:
djgutierrez77 wrote:
whac3 wrote:

Join me on the Dark Side where we get awesome one-linears and cooler costumes and make-up.

I'm in! Who do we rant at?

Does it matter? We rant!

Hahaha
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fightcitymayor wrote:
whac3 wrote:
Join me on the Dark Side where we get awesome one-linears and cooler costumes and make-up.
I don't like the sound of these "one-linears."
Sounds suspiciously like stealth geometry.
And I will have none of that!


Bwahaha It's Pseudo-Riemannian!
 
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I'm just waiting for this post:

When you look at all of the supposedly objective examples, they're totally lopsided toward things the other side does more than my side. Why should my side pretend that it's just as bad as the other side when it's not?

PS - My side 2012! Woo!
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For those of us who don't have a side may I just say that this is exactly what about 80% of the threads are looking like these days. Even the Atheism vs. Theism threads look the same as this.
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jeff brown wrote:
For those of us who don't have a side may I just say that this is exactly what about 80% of the threads are looking like these days. Even the Atheism vs. Theism threads look the same as this.


The audacity of your side to make claims like this is beyond the pale.
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chaendlmaier wrote:
Who is the other side?


They are!
 
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chaendlmaier wrote:
But I don't have a side.


You need to diet.
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We're Not Gonna Take It!

 
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Jon!

I didn't know you were Ramesh Ponnuru, writing for the National Review!

(Full column follows)

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“The period which immediately precedes an election, and that during which the election is taking place, must always be considered as a national crisis. ... As the election draws near, the activity of intrigue and the agitation of the populace increase; the citizens are divided into hostile camps, each of which assumes the name of its favorite candidate; the whole nation glows with feverish excitement.” -- Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” 1835

I can’t stand the people on your side. Not you, particularly. You’re fine. It’s your side that’s ruining everything great about this country.
About Ramesh Ponnuru

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Your side lies shamelessly. Your leaders just make things up. And you just follow them blindly, like sheep -- like blind sheep. You hang out with people who think just like you, and listen only to shows where you’ll hear your own views repeated. It’s an echo chamber of lies!

That’s how your side wins elections. It whips gullible people into a frenzy about supposed threats to their freedoms and livelihoods, and it deceives everyone else into thinking it’s more moderate than it really is. Once the election is over, though, your side starts pushing its extreme agenda behind the scenes.
Monstrous Crimes

When your side wins an election, you make out the president to be some sort of messenger from God. Nothing he does can be wrong. It doesn’t matter how big a hypocrite he is. He can campaign on bringing us together and then do nothing but divide us when he gets in -- but you don’t mind. When our side wins, on the other hand, the president has to be personally trashed and accused of the most monstrous crimes.

Your side stirs up hate against the people on my side. The horrible signs your people hold up at their protests, the venom your spokesmen spew on television: It’s scary. I wonder how you can go through life with all that anger inside you.

Your side is simplistic. You never stop and think things through. That’s how you end up with your ridiculously inconsistent positions on abortion and the death penalty. You even fight against legislation that would make your own life better! How crazy is that?

Honestly, I don’t know whether to be sorry for you or mad. Sometimes I wish we could just free you from these awful leaders and their dumb ideas. Sometimes I wish all the people on your side would just secede and form your own country.

I don’t know if your side even believes in democracy. Your people are willing to do whatever it takes to win. That’s all they care about. They don’t care about how much damage their incivility does to the tone of our national life. It makes me sad.

Your side is willing to exploit tragedies for political gain. When your side’s rhetoric leads to political violence, on the other hand, you start saying how we shouldn’t politicize senseless crimes. Awfully convenient, isn’t it?

Your side’s extremism just grows and grows. Back in the day, people on your side had some sensible views and were willing to work with people on my side. Now your side purges anyone who would dare to do that.

The people on your side constantly whine about how unfairly they are treated. You’re always stoking phony outrage against the political leaders you hate. They are shameless liars, you say. But why should we take demands for honesty seriously when they come from your side? Frankly, anything your side gets is justified payback for all the things you’ve done.
Overly Polite

I’m not saying that my side is perfect. Not at all. I complain about the people on my side all the time. They’re wimps. They’re too polite. They let your side get away with murder. And the press lets it happen, too. The people on my side always bring knives to the gunfight.

Maybe the most infuriating thing your side does is pretend that we’re morally equivalent. That’s not true: Your side is full of much worse people. I can’t even stand seeing them on television. No way could I ever watch that supposed news network of yours.

It’s nothing personal. I just hate people like you.

-"I'm Right, You're Wrong, and Other Political Truths", by Ramesh Ponnuru. 8.23.12

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-20/i-m-right-you-re-wr...

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Darilian wrote:
Jon!

I didn't know you were Ramesh Ponnuru, writing for the National Review!


Take it up with A. BARTON HINKLE from the Richmond Times-Dispatch .
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Good columnists borrow.

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