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Francis K. Lalumiere
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I've just played my first game and it was a blast.
But this one really screams for asteroid miniatures instead of cardboard chits.

Would you guys have suggestions as to where I might find those?
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Lava Rocks used for grilling.
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Your local hardware store. Buy a big bag of lava rocks, cleave with a chisel until they fit into spaces, and bag them separately (the dust is pretty brutal)

I have tried spraying the rocks with a spray varnish, but I'm not certain that it helps. The rocks just soak up the varnish like a sponge, and it doesn't seem to help much.



I still need to start on an article series for game pimping. Alas, I gave up my preview copy to the other guy demoing BBS at Gencon (who was awesome, btw). So I don't have a copy myself for a couple of weeks.

(And I still owe Jrachfal a pimped copy as part of the Vasel charity drive.)

The one question I'm trying to work out is ship and asteroid stands. I've come to the following conclusions:
1. Clear plastic sucks for stands. They are brittle, and the gloss makes them way too visible.
2. Something in metal painted flat black is the way to go.
3. You don't want them to be very tall. 1/2-3/4 of an inch. Maybe an inch for cap ships to allow you to have fun with the cap ship damage markers. (The prototype pics use cotton with alligator clips glued in the middle).
4. Ideally, I want one piece, and am seriously considering roofing nails with very large heads. Possibly supplemented by washers.
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Any date that we can pick this up?
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Also, I'm going to with these when I get a copy,

http://www.boardsandbits.com/product_info.php?cPath=1051&pro...

Not exactly asteroids, but I think they'll look good on the table,

They also have other colors, as I'm just thinking the black will probably blend in too much.
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The release window is a couple of weeks out. I believe that games were arriving at the warehouse this week. I've been checking Alliance to see when they show that in stock, which will strip that down to a few days.

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The lava rocks look great. Yes, they cause a little dust, but they don't seem to wear out. I recommend a freezer thick zip lock bag to store them since they are somewhat sharp. Best of all, they are easy to replace. (Goodness. I think I still have a bag of several hundred lava rocks in my garage left over from pimping this years ago. I would give away packages of them, but shipping makes it silly to do so.)

I love the alligator clip in orange painted cotton ball damage markers. They don't make much sense (no air in space), but they just look cool. They are also cheap to make.

These definitely add to your set!

Painted Nails with washers should work as stands, though I wonder if there is room in the model to attach them. I have not seen the final models as all I have is the prototype.

I am looking forward to getting this one once it becomes available in my area to buy! If nothing else, I need the box because my prototype is just in a generic box!
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fbranham wrote:
The release window is a couple of weeks out.

Really? My contact at Z-Man told me they received the shipment last Friday, and I ordered a case. Got it on Tuesday!
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weishaupt wrote:
Would you guys have suggestions as to where I might find those?


I bought these and was very happy with them: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...
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Perfect asteroids!

As for the stands, my plan is to buy a long, wooden rod at my local hardware store, and chop it into half-inch (or maybe three-quarter) thick discs (similar to scoring discs in most Eurogames) that I'll spray paint matte black, and then stick under each ship.
I'll have to use a larger diameter for the capital ship, but I think it'll work very well. I'll come back and post pictures once I'm done!
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weishaupt wrote:
fbranham wrote:
The release window is a couple of weeks out.

Really? My contact at Z-Man told me they received the shipment last Friday, and I ordered a case. Got it on Tuesday!


Yay! That may be what Zev told me. I think that the this week was when they hit the US warehouse, followed by whenever they start to hit Alliance, and then trickle their way into stores.

That's a couple of weeks on the outside. Probably start trickling into stores late next week for the US, and tomorrow and early next week for Canada.

...ish.
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weishaupt wrote:
Perfect asteroids!

As for the stands, my plan is to buy a long, wooden rod at my local hardware store, and chop it into half-inch (or maybe three-quarter) thick discs (similar to scoring discs in most Eurogames) that I'll spray paint matte black, and then stick under each ship.
I'll have to use a larger diameter for the capital ship, but I think it'll work very well. I'll come back and post pictures once I'm done!


Hmm. Those might make nice "stands". Just use two for the cap ships, that helps reinforce the idea that they occupy two spaces.

As to attaching, I picked up some roofing nails and fender washers today. I use a Dremel drill press for pinning spaceships for stands. I know I'll need the fender washers for the larger ships, and can use some metal epoxy putty to add the fender washers to the nails. Great stuff, epoxy putty.
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http://www.firemountaingems.com/Search?Keywords=lava&ItemsPe...

There's a variety of lava beads here, if you scroll down you'll see a few that are more natural/rugged looking than the round etc. ones (which still have all the pores and otherwise lava-ness to them). These should not be dusty at all; I have a strand of I think 10mm round ones.

hit to view 50 or 100 per page to see most or all of them, there's a few more natural-ish shape ones further down.

There's a variety of sizes; also, if these don't work, there's a variety of sphere or pebble/nugget beads of other types that might work (obviously in the cheap gemstones which are often 2-4 a strand of a bunch of em).
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Not sure of the scale, but larger aquarium or atrium rocks from the local pet shop might work.
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I wonder if you could spray the lava rocks with matte clear varnish or something to seal the dust in.
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jwalsh1 wrote:
I wonder if you could spray the lava rocks with matte clear varnish or something to seal the dust in.


I don't think it works very well. At a guess:

The lava rock absorbs the varnish, which should in theory help strengthen the outer layer of the lava rock. Problem is, the outer surface of lava rock is so innately fragile that it just crumbles anyway. It definitely never is able to form a hard shell around the rock--the stuff is so porous that the varnish is gone in seconds.

It might be possible to attack it with something brushed on or dipped. Enough to completely saturate the stuff.
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fbranham wrote:
jwalsh1 wrote:
I wonder if you could spray the lava rocks with matte clear varnish or something to seal the dust in.


I don't think it works very well. At a guess:

The lava rock absorbs the varnish, which should in theory help strengthen the outer layer of the lava rock. Problem is, the outer surface of lava rock is so innately fragile that it just crumbles anyway. It definitely never is able to form a hard shell around the rock--the stuff is so porous that the varnish is gone in seconds.

It might be possible to attack it with something brushed on or dipped. Enough to completely saturate the stuff.

Why not just dip it in varnish?
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weishaupt wrote:
Perfect asteroids!

As for the stands, my plan is to buy a long, wooden rod at my local hardware store, and chop it into half-inch (or maybe three-quarter) thick discs (similar to scoring discs in most Eurogames) that I'll spray paint matte black, and then stick under each ship.
I'll have to use a larger diameter for the capital ship, but I think it'll work very well. I'll come back and post pictures once I'm done!


I took the clear plastic stands from a .99 thrifted copy of Star Wars: Jedi Unleashed and used plastic model glue to adhere each sculpt to it. This worked great and it was super cheap.
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