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Previously on Battlestar NCC 1701....

BSG 300: The Volks on the Voyager



Welcome to the flight of NCC 1701-V and its sister flight NCC 1701-W

This will be a 6 player NON-CFB game with a Cylon Leader.
David will be running a 5 player CFB game in NCC 1701-W.

Players:
Neil
Billytea (wouldn't mind being CL)
David
Anna
Francisco
Alain

Game Options are:

More construction. Frak it, we all know the usual falgercarb.

No we don't! Added August 30th:


Standing Assumptions for Interrupts:

1) Pass on any you don't have, but don't tell the thread until almost finished to hide the fact you haven't got it.

2) Strategic Planning:
- Pass on Launch Scout if there are 2 or more Raptors.
- Pass on Cylon Attacks, Actions, etc.
- Pass on Viper Attacks vs Raiders & BaseStars

3) Evasive Maneuver:
Pass on EVERY use unless:
- YOU are in the viper being hit
- the viper is being DESTROYED
- the viper is shielding a civilian from IMMEDIATE attack

4) Calculations: **NB
- Pass on making Failed Cylon Attacks, Actions, etc succeed.
- Pass on Viper Attacks vs Raiders & BaseStars

5) Declare Emergency: **NB
- Pass if you are the Target of Admiral's Quarters or Airlock
- Pass if you played skill cards against Admiral's Quarters or Airlock

6) All Reckless Interrupts from Pegasus Expansion:
- n/a - always ask

**NB Calculations & Declare Emergency Discussion:
Conditions to use these are "rare".
Should I automatically "offer to use yours" when it'll make a difference?
By this I mean post to the thread you have one, (leaving the value unlisted).
Multiple offers may mean that current player will decide which one to use.
You can always rescind the offer if you'd rather hold it.


Or better: Get those Standing CO's in!
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Cylon Leader with non-Cylon Fleet Board implies we have a Pegasus game. What other options do we want?

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Destination?
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
Kobol
50.0% 3
New Caprica
16.7% 1
Ionian Nebula
33.3% 2
Voters 6
What Exodus options, if any, do we want to use?
  Yes No Don't Care Vote Count
None 0.0% (0) 50.0% (3) 50.0% (3) 6
PG 33.3% (2) 33.3% (2) 33.3% (2) 6
FF 50.0% (3) 0.0% (0) 50.0% (3) 6
-30 non attack cards 83.3% (5) 0.0% (0) 16.7% (1) 6
Total Voters 6
This poll is now closed.   6 answers
Poll created by GerryRailBaron
Closes: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:00 am


NB "-30 non attack cards" : Exodus added 30 Crisis cards without any Cylon Attack Cards. If you just add in the crisis cards in a NON-CFB game, you dilute the attacks from 1 in 7 to 1 in 10 or so.
 
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GerryRailBaron wrote:
NB "-30 non attack cards" : Exodus added 30 Crisis cards without any Cylon Attack Cards. If you just add in the crisis cards in a NON-CFB game, you dilute the attacks from 1 in 7 to 1 in 10 or so.


Nitpick: Exodus added 40 non-CAC Crisis with 6 of them being CAG-chooses. So apart from the 6 CAG-Crisis you should remove 34 non CAC-Crisis Cards to get the same Cylon Attack Frequency like in Base+Pegasus alone.
 
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Nitpick: Yeah, I couldn't remember the exact number, so went with -30. The exact number will be the balancing one.
 
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Hmm - it occurs to me, it's not on the poll, but are we going to be allowed to use Exodus characters if we don't include a full Exodus module? No CFB, no Ionian, and it looks like no PGs...
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Caimion wrote:
Hmm - it occurs to me, it's not on the poll, but are we going to be allowed to use Exodus characters if we don't include a full Exodus module? No CFB, no Ionian, and it looks like no PGs...

Nothing stops you from using the characters, crises, skill cards, quroum cards and destinations, even if you don't use any of the three modules.

Heck, with the exception of Ellen, Dee, and the CLs, you could use all characters in a base game.

For this game, I plan to use Dee or Gaeta, as I haven't played these online yet.
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The Exodus Components Poll leaves a few questions open. Let's ask again.

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Should we use any Exodus Components at all?
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
Yes
83.3% 5
No
16.7% 1
Voters 6
Assuming we use some Exodus components, which ones should we use?
  Yes No Vote Count
Characters 100.0% (6) 0.0% (0) 6
Crisis Cards 100.0% (6) 0.0% (0) 6
Destination Cards 83.3% (5) 16.7% (1) 6
Personal Goals 66.7% (4) 33.3% (2) 6
Final Five 83.3% (5) 16.7% (1) 6
Total Voters 6
Further, assuming we do use Exodus Crisis Cards, should we remove 34 random non-attack cards from the crisis deck before we begin play? (To maintain the approx 7:1 ratio of cards:attack cards)
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
Yes
100.0% 6
No
0.0% 0
Voters 6
Finally, assuming we do remove 34 non-attack cards from the crisis deck, should they:
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
all come from the Base Game?
0.0% 0
be 2/3's Base Game, 1/3 Pegasus cards?
33.3% 2
be pro-rated across the three expansions?
16.7% 1
be the top 34 non-attack cards from the combined Crisis decks?
50.0% 3
Voters 6
This poll is now closed.   6 answers
Poll created by GerryRailBaron
Closes: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:00 am
 
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So, we're going to Kobol.

We're going to use Exodus Cards in existing decks, namely we will can have Exodus Characters, Destinations. From that I infer we will have Quorum, Super Crisis, cards as well. We will also have Final Five, and even Personal Goal loyalty cards (the last just barely making it into the game). And finally, to keep the number of Cylon attacks at a reasonable pace, once I create the entire Crisis Deck from all 3 sources I will then remove 34 non-attack cards from the top of the randomized deck.

Player Order:
Neil d8= 1d8 = (7) = 7 another d8= 1d8 = (1) = 1 3rd d8= 1d8 = (8) = 8
Billytea d8= 1d8 = (7) = 7 another d8= 1d8 = (7) = 7 3rd d8= 1d8 = (4) = 4
David d8= 1d8 = (7) = 7 another d8= 1d8 = (1) = 1 3rd d8= 1d8 = (5) = 5
Anna d8= 1d8 = (7) = 7 another d8= 1d8 = (7) = 7 3rd d8= 1d8 = (8) = 8
Francisco d8= 1d8 = (4) = 4
Alain d8= 1d8 = (1) = 1
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wow. 4 way tie.

edit: oh wow, then 2 pair of ties in the tie breaker.
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Final Player Order:
Anna
Billytea
Neil
David
Francisco
Alain

Anna: Please pick any character you want
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Poll
As per Crisis Deck, should the Super Crisis Deck have 2 random, non-attack cards removed?
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
Yes
66.7% 4
No
33.3% 2
Voters 6
This poll is now closed.   6 answers
Poll created by GerryRailBaron
Closes: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:00 am
 
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Very Vell...

CO: If we can use Exodus characters, I'd like Tory. If not, I'll take Roslin.

Taking charge, as of right now. As long as you all do as I wish, we will get on just fine. If not... Well, that's what the Brig is for.

Carry on.


Billytea, you're up!
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Tory has been chosen!

billytea, please select a Cylon Leader.
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Very well! This game, I shall try my hand at playing Seven of Nine Six of Eight the spiciest of the Cylons, Paprika Six.



For my starting draw, I'll take 1 Leadership and 1 Engineering.
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GerryRailBaron wrote:
wow. 4 way tie.

edit: oh wow, then 2 pair of ties in the tie breaker.

This is why I just use the List Randomizer at random.org -- no worry about ties.
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Tory & Six are chosen.

Neil: you can pick any of the Military, Pilot, or Support characters.
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Hmm, no big fan of military leaders. I've played support a lot recently, so pilot it is.


What's that, little bear? This game has cylon attack cards? Well, that seals the deal. Let's (ab)use Alert Viper Pilot with everyone's favourite Captain - Apollo, of course.

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So, Military or Support? I played a Support last game, so let's go Military. I don't think I've ever played Saul Tigh, so I'll try him. Start with two green and one purple.

(Note to Apollo: you need to specify your initial draw, and initial placement.)
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David Goldfarb wrote:
GerryRailBaron wrote:
wow. 4 way tie.

edit: oh wow, then 2 pair of ties in the tie breaker.

This is why I just use the List Randomizer at random.org -- no worry about ties.


d1000s work too!
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David Goldfarb wrote:
(Note to Apollo: you need to specify your initial draw, and initial placement.)


Thanks, but I made them conditional on who the rest of the crew is, so it's in GM
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But then again, loyalty cards go out first, skill cards get drawn second.

Francisco: You can be any of the remaining characters, except for Cavil or Leoben
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Fantastic pic of Jamie Bamber there, who by the way I met at FanExpo last Saturday, great guy (But dude, the yellow hair doesn't look good on you). I asked him about Fat Lee, he told us that he was game to try gaining and losing the actual weight but scheduling shoots made it impractical so the makeup department gave him chipmunk cheeks, he padded his bottom and stole Grace Park's pregnancy belly. So really that explains it. Lee wasn't fat HE WAS PREGNANT WITH STARBUCK'S BABY!

I'll play the Holographic Doctor... what? What do you mean he's not an Available Character? *Humph* I'll go ahead and pick

Chief Tyrol, starting with 1 Political, 1 Leadership and 1 Engineering

I'm not sure if I've played him before... maybe, maybe not. But playing Helo as the 4th guy would preclude Alain from playing Felix, and I know we'll all just toss him out the airlock in the first round anyway...
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Uh-oh, we're going to let David be Admiral Tigh? Last time we had an Admiral Tigh it worked out soooo well... shortest game ever, was it?

I was trying to look for someone who's a lookalike to a Voyager crew member, but none of the pilots really do I suppose Apollo could be Paris, but Paris' hair is much lighter than Apollo's on the show.
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I'll take 1 Leadership, 1 Tactics, 1 Engineering

colmenarez wrote:
But playing Helo as the 4th guy would preclude Alain from playing Felix, and I know we'll all just toss him out the airlock in the first round anyway...

Yeah, I know, I know, Gerry can send me my "You are a Cylon" card right away...

But hey, if you do airlock me, maybe I'll come back as Dee, and I'll have played all human characters available so far.

Also, Helo as the fifth player is a pain, due to Stranded.


Now as far as resemblances to the Voyager crew go, hmm ...

Tory = Torres (almost sounds the same)
Six = Seven (is there any doubt?)
Apollo = Paris (pilot and best resemblance)
Tigh = EMH (just as easily irritable and just as "shiny")
Chief = ... okay here we have a problem. Kim? Nah. Maybe a non-regular like Carrey or Suder.
Gaeta = Chakotay, but I admit it's a stretch.

But then again, Jack Bauer didn't look that much like Helo either.
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Loyalty Cards going out.

Apollo drew Green/Purple/Red. So all cards drawn, so hands going out.

We will use Exodus Execution Rules. That is, there is an extra Loyalty Card in the Loyalty deck. Someone dies, we add another YANAC, shuffle, and deal them a cards.
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