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This quest card states: (...) Players cannot win the game while Durin's Bane is in play. If Durin's Bane leaves play by the effect on Dark Pit, the players have won the game.

This card has one quest point, nevertheless the card text seems to indicate, that the players can win even without a single progress token on this quest card, as long as they let Durin's Bane leave play by the Dark Pit. On the other hand, the players obviously cannot defeat this stage solely by putting one progress token on it.

If my assumption is true, for what is the one quest point and why isn't there a "-" like on other quest cards with goals independent from progress tokens?

 
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I believe your assumption about the victory conditions is correct. As for why there's a 1 for the progress required, I couldn't tell you. It probably is just an inconsistency due to the various quests having different designers.
 
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A follow-up question... if you happen to explore the Dark Pit before removing Durin's Bane, do you basically lose the game? (unless you play Shadows from the Past, or survive until you cycle through the entire encounter deck and draw the location again )
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GeckoTH wrote:
A follow-up question... if you happen to explore the Dark Pit before removing Durin's Bane, do you basically lose the game? (unless you play Shadows from the Past, or survive until you cycle through the entire encounter deck and draw the location again )


Yes. I think that is the intent that if you quest too much you will lose the game (or need to find the dark pit again)
 
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GeckoTH wrote:
A follow-up question... if you happen to explore the Dark Pit before removing Durin's Bane, do you basically lose the game? (unless you play Shadows from the Past, or survive until you cycle through the entire encounter deck and draw the location again :p )


This is a very good question. It seems, that your question must be answered with Yes.
 
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Gimli: "Hey, guys, now that I've checked out this pit I really don't think it'll be deep enough. I mean, it's like a five-foot drop."

Legolas: "Nice going, Aragorn. Got any more bright ideas?"
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Just wanted to confirm, what you came up with.
I asked FFG: Do you have to place 1 Quest Point on "Last Lord of Moria" 3B?

Caleb Grace wrote:
2. No, you don't need to place 1 progress to win because the win condition bypasses that.
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