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Troy Davis
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If the Patriot Act is in effect and the US player plays Special Forces with Troops in the Philippines, does the Patriot Act prevent Special Forces from removing a cell from the United States since the Philippines isn't considered adjacent? (due to the Patriot Act)

If so, that means the US can't perform Spec Ops in its own backyard because of legislation (i.e. the Patriot Act) designed to prevent cells from entering the US in the first place! I don't know much about the Patriot Act but that doesn't seem very thematic ...
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I agree it's thematically weird but strictly from a rules-perspective, it seems pretty clear that the US is not adjacent to the Philippines following play of Patriot Act.
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All true, including "thematically weird".

The fact is that using Special Forces to remove a cell in the United States did not come up in playtest, and I did not think of it on my own, probably because it is cheap just to Disrupt in the US, while Special Forces' ability to remove cells from otherwise denied or difficult areas is precious. (Thematically, what would require troops in the Philippines?) But the events as written (Abu Sayyaf plus Special Forces) make it possible, so there it is.

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Volko wrote:
All true, including "thematically weird".

The fact is that using Special Forces to remove a cell in the United States did not come up in playtest, and I did not think of it on my own, probably because it is cheap just to Disrupt in the US, while Special Forces' ability to remove cells from otherwise denied or difficult areas is precious. (Thematically, what would require troops in the Philippines?) But the events as written (Abu Sayyaf plus Special Forces) make it possible, so there it is.

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No worries at all and not a criticism for what is a fine game. I just happened upon the possibility and thought it ironic. Also, it is nice to have the confirmation (especially from the designer). All the best and I guess I should be looking into Andean Abyss now, eh?
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Volko wrote:
All true, including "thematically weird".

The fact is that using Special Forces to remove a cell in the United States did not come up in playtest, and I did not think of it on my own, probably because it is cheap just to Disrupt in the US, while Special Forces' ability to remove cells from otherwise denied or difficult areas is precious. (Thematically, what would require troops in the Philippines?) But the events as written (Abu Sayyaf plus Special Forces) make it possible, so there it is.

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Actually, I think the "Posse Comitatus Act" would prevent special forces from operating in the US unless the President determines that "domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order."

For example, on March 10, 2009, active duty U.S. Army Military Police troops from Fort Rucker were deployed to Samson, Alabama in response to a murder spree. Samson officials confirmed that the soldiers assisted in traffic control and securing the crime scene. The governor of Alabama did not request military assistance nor did President Obama authorize their deployment. Subsequent investigation found that the Posse Comitatus Act was violated and several military members received "administrative actions."
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