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Is there already a BGG.CON feedback thread? I thought a single place where comments, complaints and suggestions regarding BGG.CON could be placed would be a good idea. If the Admins agree, maybe they could pin the topic...
 
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It was a great con! No question. I think the job done by the Organizers (Aldie, Derk and whomever did the real work...) deserve a great big THANKS for putting on such a wonderful event. Really, it was the best Con I have ever attended. I'll move heaven and earth to return next year.

That said I do have one complaint/criticism and that involves the Flea Market. It appears that the Flea Market was less organized than other parts of the con. Or maybe just less thought was put into it. Generally, the flea market went well. I suspect everyone would agree that it was a success. But I did notice that there was no effort to keep "shoppers" (including myself, to be sure) out of the flea market area until the 9:00 AM start time. While sellers were asked not to sell until 9:00 AM (and this restriction was not always honored), there was nothing to stop the early birds from "claiming" items prior to the start time. This seems a little unfair to the folks waiting until 9:00 AM to see what was available at the Flea market. As it was, I suspect most the "good stuff" was gone (if not technically sold) before 9:00 AM.

Others probably have a different opinon on the flea market. I'm only reporting what I saw...

But hey, it's really a small thing in the greater context of the whole convention which I think was well organized and went very well. I enjoyed myself very much and enjoyed meeting a lot of geeks I know only by avatar. I hope to see y'all again next year.


 
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We'll gladly take feedback, and this thread seems appropriately titled for the task...

The Flea Market wasn't hugely planned, and I guess it showed. We will put a bit more thought into it next time and see what we can do to make it better...
 
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I saw a lot of lonely guys wandering the games area looking for games to get in on. We're generally not all the most socially bold people, so maybe look into a way to facilitate starting a game up?

Someone else I talked to suggested a meetup area near the games library for loose gamers looking to get in on games.

I thought a sign or a flag with big red letters that read "need players" would also get the job done!
 
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derk wrote:
We'll gladly take feedback, and this thread seems appropriately titled for the task...

The Flea Market wasn't hugely planned, and I guess it showed. We will put a bit more thought into it next time and see what we can do to make it better...


That's it. You're committed now
 
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I like the idea of a "Need Players" sign. There were several games we were setting up that we were looking for additional players. The game explainers were also supposed to make people feel included. I tried to include any new people I could find in my games.
 
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I guess I didn't realize there were going to be 'official' game 'splainers... I did plenty of 'splainin' this weekend, but I didn't get a spiffy black vest to wear

But then, I didn't expect to 'splain things like Tempus, that just sorta happened. I listened to an explanation by sisteray and then 'splained the game later when I found it available and people to play with.

Valerie did a great job of 'splainin' Caylus (over, and over, and over...). She mentioned that she wanted to change her BGG username now that she's married, but didn't want to impose on Aldie or anything... I say we change her name to Caylust (or CayLust, or Cay Lust, or some derivation thereof) on account of how much she loves the game.

Oh, and I think I already mentioned in another thread the idea of Dirk and Aldie (or whoever) 'gunslinging'.

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P.S. I too had a great time. I agree with the guy who said (in some other thread) that a food runner type of thing would be good... maybe just buying a bunch of snacks (chips/candy/soda) at Costco and selling them to the con people would be enough.

P.P.S. I loved the door prizes and givaways, that was awesome! I would have the Grand Prizes go the other way though, with the Red tickets picking from the 'bestest' group... since the Red ticketholder already got the lower valued door prize. Otherwise you've got a 'rich get richer' problem, where only the people who already got higher valued prizes are eligible for the high valued grand prizes. That's not good game balance!

P.P.P.S. I like the idea of having some scheduled games, like at Kublacon, or like Sterling set up informally with his list. Then I like the idea of keeping track of who plays/wins those events and having some prize for that.
 
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On the issue of the flea market (although I got lucky and got StarFarers of Catan for $10)- how about an auction? This would take some
effort to get organized, but I can tell you from attending auctions for
Tropical Fish clubs, it can be a whole lot of fun. They even keep a percentage for the house, and no one seems to mind.
 
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Dunno if it would violate any deals you had for occupying the space (or create cleanup headaches), but consider selling candy bars/chips/soft drinks at the next one. It wasn't very easy to find a machine, since we were not in the hotel itself, and might bring in some additional revenue to help fund future events. I'd rather pay you for a cold drink than the hotel. This might also alleviate some of the concerns about food after foodcourt hours, though I did notice pizza delivery numbers posted on Sat. I presume they will be listed on day one next year. One thing I noticed on Sun morning was the staff who was there delivering water, cleaning, etc., had the vendor area and game library open to anyone who wanted to walk in. While I think we were all pretty honest folks, perhaps there needs to be some protocol with the staff about leaving the door open unattended. I like the flag idea that was mentioned, I used to eat at a restaurant where you raised a little flag when you wanted service, you could probably obtain some from a restaurant supply co fairly cheaply, or make them yourself to save even more money. Just put one on each table, and tell people to raise the flag for more players. One final suggestion, for the games without english rules that are part of the game library, try to include a translation from the geek where possible. This could be extended to any games brought by others who loan their game to the library as well. It would of course be their responsibility to put it in there, but would be nice particularly for some of the german games that went unplayed because some of us didn't have a computer to access the Geek for english translations. All minor things really, but since you did so well on the first one, I have nothing major to suggest.
 
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The hotel strictly forbid us from selling food/drinks. Want a drink? You hafta buy it from them....the price: $3.00/can.

Yeah, I was a little perturbed that the cleaning crew opened the door so damn early with nobody there. I will speak to them about that one.
 
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How about if you guys free Love Field so we can get there on Southwest?


How's that for a request?
 
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And what was the final stats for the convention? How many were there? Do you have it broken out by day?
 
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while i didn't the CON, i would consider going to the next one, no doubt.

As for the NEED players. I think that the brazilians have it right with their rodizio method. You have a round cylinder type of peg, that has a green top and red bottom. You simply put up the green when u are welcoming more players, and red...when the game is full.
 
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sedjtroll wrote:
Valerie did a great job of 'splainin' Caylus (over, and over, and over...). She mentioned that she wanted to change her BGG username now that she's married, but didn't want to impose on Aldie or anything... I say we change her name to Caylust (or CayLust, or Cay Lust, or some derivation thereof) on account of how much she loves the game.


Cay Lust. Sounds like a porn name! I think I'll pass.
 
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I second (third? fourth? fifth?) the idea of a flag or some other visible means of displaying a "new game starting" message. It wasn't too much of a problem, but as someone else mentioned we're not all as loud, outgoing and brash as Derk...

(BTW Derk, thanks for roping me into the Das Ende De Triumvirate game with the Thoughthammer guys! A good game and a lot of fun.)
 
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I saw a lot of lonely guys wandering the games area looking for games to get in on. We're generally not all the most socially bold people, so maybe look into a way to facilitate starting a game up?


I was aware of such things, and we're workin' on some ideas to make this aspect better... I think my Game 'Splainer idea needs to be expanded a bit and made a bit more formalized.
 
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I like the idea of a "Need Players" sign. There were several games we were setting up that we were looking for additional players. The game explainers were also supposed to make people feel included. I tried to include any new people I could find in my games.


Think we could get a deal on surplus flags from Pancho's?
 
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Stven, at his gaming events, has sort of an explorer's cap that folks who were looking for a game would don. Maybe something you could wear or a place you could go would be helpful. Mostly if you can get folks to get over their initial shyness and just approach others who also seem to be looking about for a game it works quite well. It seems awkward at first, but only at first.
 
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darlok wrote:
while i didn't the CON, i would consider going to the next one, no doubt.

As for the NEED players. I think that the brazilians have it right with their rodizio method. You have a round cylinder type of peg, that has a green top and red bottom. You simply put up the green when u are welcoming more players, and red...when the game is full.


I was was thinking the same thing.
 
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derk wrote:
dr glaze et al wrote:
I saw a lot of lonely guys wandering the games area looking for games to get in on. We're generally not all the most socially bold people, so maybe look into a way to facilitate starting a game up?


I was aware of such things, and we're workin' on some ideas to make this aspect better... I think my Game 'Splainer idea needs to be expanded a bit and made a bit more formalized.



I'm telling ya: give 'em big floppy hats & call them "game pimps". Their job: set people up with some fine-ass games and slap around the games that don't make people happy.
 
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sedjtroll wrote:
Valerie did a great job of 'splainin' Caylus (over, and over, and over...). She mentioned that she wanted to change her BGG username now that she's married, but didn't want to impose on Aldie or anything... I say we change her name to Caylust (or CayLust, or Cay Lust, or some derivation thereof) on account of how much she loves the game.


Cay Lust. Sounds like a porn name! I think I'll pass.

That's 1/2 the fun!

But if you like you can go with the more demure "Caylust".

 
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dr glaze et al wrote:
I thought a sign or a flag with big red letters that read "need players" would also get the job done!

We had this same exact idea while looking for players one evening. Well, maybe just a big red flag, but anyway I "sixth" this idea.

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How about if you guys free Love Field so we can get there on Southwest?

Creative booking should do the trick. I booked one round-trip flight from KC to OK City, and a second round-trip from OK City to Love. Southwest is well aware of the problem and still keeps the pricing pretty competitive on their website; I think I paid around $85 per round-trip ticket.

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I agree with the guy who said (in some other thread) that a food runner type of thing would be good...

We found a liquor store only 2 blocks away. If you run for my lunch I'll run for your beer. Age of Steam goes awfully well with a couple of Shiner Bocks!
 
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I suspected the food and drink was off-limits, but can't hurt to ask ;-). Wasn't sure if you were aware of the door thing Sun, which is why I brought it up. Another idea I just thought of, perhaps you could sell BGG tote bags to go with the shirts next year. I know a number of us could have used a good bag or two to carry home all the games we bought. That or find out where Rook gets those nearly indestructible bags made that they give away at all the major cons each year, and have some made with the BGG logo maybe. And since I'm making all these suggestions, it's only right that if you need additonal volunteers for next year, that I put my name in the hat. It's a short drive to Dallas, and I never can use all my vacation anyways.
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jpact wrote:
dr glaze et al wrote:
I thought a sign or a flag with big red letters that read "need players" would also get the job done!

We had this same exact idea while looking for players one evening. Well, maybe just a big red flag, but anyway I "sixth" this idea.


A big red flag with a yellow meeple on it.

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Thosw wrote:
Think we could get a deal on surplus flags from Pancho's?


Was there a Pancho's somewhere nearby?! Next time!! Mmm, college memories of cheap food and warm sopapillas...
 
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