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Mike Szarka
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I just pulled out my copy of Europe Engulfed and the cardboard map lays out nice and flat. Normally I am a plexiglass guy, but as all my plexiglass is sized for single maps, and this seems to be sitting nicely, I am tempted to play right on the map. However I need a way to stop it sliding around. Many years ago I went to an art supply store and bought some drafting tape (looks like masking tape but less tacky) which was supposed to be able to be removed without damaging the maps. My results were less than perfect, but I'm tempted to try it again.

Any other suggestions? My fallback is to just use two sheets of plexi and scotch tape them together.
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Low Tack Painter's Tape - the blue stuff.

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Now, back when I was a young wargamer, what we did was put very clear very sticky tape (Scotch Magic Tape) on the map corners, never planning to remove it.

That served as the substrate for the tape to hold the map flat to the table.

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It occurs to me that you might want to use a Rug Grip - you can buy that cheap enough - and reuse it.

It is made in sheets or in tape form;

http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Technologies-2525A-6TR-Gripper...


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Only put tape on the back side of yer map.

Find some low tack double sided tape or make a small loop of regular low tack tape.
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Can't say as I have a solution. But I do have a warning. If you are planning on having it set up a while, painters tape does eventualy stick down hard. I used some of the Blue tape for a stream in a miniatures game and did not try to lift it for several months and it took paint straight off the table.
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One I can definitely say is a BAD idea is that blue tacky stuff
that you can put under things. Don't remember what it's called,
but it stains. I used to use thumb-tacks which left less of a mess.


If the map can be placed near the edges of tables, little c-clamps
work pretty well (put a piece of paper to lessen the chance of
marring the map).
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LanceRunolfsson wrote:
Can't say as I have a solution. But I do have a warning. If you are planning on having it set up a while, painters tape does eventualy stick down hard. I used some of the Blue tape for a stream in a miniatures game and did not try to lift it for several months and it took paint straight off the table.
Lance, you know the Danube isn't really blue, don't you?
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I use artist putty.
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I have a friend who uses plexi on top of the map, then a matching piece of cardboard under it, clipping everything together along the sides with binding clips. That way when you nudge the plexi, and it moves, everything moves together. Probably not practical with a bigger map like you're using.
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autumnweave wrote:
I have a friend who uses plexi on top of the map, then a matching piece of cardboard under it, clipping everything together along the sides with binding clips. That way when you nudge the plexi, and it moves, everything moves together. Probably not practical with a bigger map like you're using.

Binder clips (aka butterfly clips) work okay, as long as you put something between the clamp and the map, i.e. some cardstock/matting, etc. or else the clips can mark or tear your map.cry
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Since I'm the one who has to continue to suggest this, you might try to find some clear bondage tape, either online or at a local adult novelty store. Despite the titillating name, it's really just the same low-to-no tack plastic that is used in window clings -- it will cling to itself, but it's not inherently sticky. I think that if you cut up some strips of this and put them between the board and the plexi you would have a transparent but high-friction area that won't stick to the board but will keep everything in place.
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I have just tried the solution of looping the drafting tape and putting it on the underside of the map. I had been reluctant to try this because I didn't want "bumps" in the map but the Europe Engulfed map seems to be made of sufficiently heavy cardstock that it isn't noticeable.
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I've never use plexi and always play directly on the map. I have never noticed slippage as a significant problem. Maybe its because I use a large conference table that allows most games (short of a real monster) to be well away from the edge of the table, which minimizes accidental knocks with plenty of elbow room.

I also have a nice soft slightly non-slip casino table top mat that I bought from Trolls and Toad awhile back that really is a must have for the anally retentive. Its beautiful and very practical. It makes dealing cards very easy, its friction perfect as I mentioned and makes picking up cards up from the table easier because its soft. Best Accessory Purchase I've ever bought.

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Kluvon wrote:
LanceRunolfsson wrote:
Can't say as I have a solution. But I do have a warning. If you are planning on having it set up a while, painters tape does eventualy stick down hard. I used some of the Blue tape for a stream in a miniatures game and did not try to lift it for several months and it took paint straight off the table.
Lance, you know the Danube isn't really blue, don't you?


No Danube! Hypothetical blue river in a hypothetical scenario!
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I use anti-slip matting that you can buy as drawer liners. Most good kitchen shops sell the stuff. It comes in a roll and you cut it to the size you want.

I bought mine specifically for use with ASL "starter kit" maps which are light card and move around very easily on a hard table top, but I now use it underneath all game maps and it does the job nicely. No taping, glueing or sticking necessary!
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Get. More. Plexi.

Problem solved.
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I always use plexiglass, but even with multi-map arrangements, it can be difficult to get and keep the maps lined up against each other properly.

When this is a problem, I use about 1" pieces of painter's tape (the blue stuff), roll it end-to-end into a loop, and put it under the corners of the maps.
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I've had Stonewall in the Valley laid out on two tables and I had most of it under plexiglass and I probably used a little bit of drafting tape to keep the maps in one place while I put the plastic over top (and I would use the smallest piece of tape possible).

Whenever I've used the drafting tape I always stick it to something and remove it again to reduce the tackiness. Even though it is designed to be removable without causing damage to paper I like to reduce the tackiness anyway.

After I get the plastic on the maps I tape the plastic to the table. This is even more important than taping the maps. I've never used transparent tape. I always use the blue painter's tape for this. I do this even with single map games. Once the plastic is down I don't have to worry about the map.

The only issue I've had (besides being able to come up with adequate table space) was trying to line up the edges where two sheets of plexi came in contact with the hex rows on the map underneath (I've got a couple of sheets of plastic that were actually sold as storm windows and they have a slight ridge at the edge). With a little care in positioning it has never been a problem.

Mounted maps are easy, even with multiple maps. Just use some of that drawer/shelf liner that you can buy at the grocery store and your maps will not move (I posted a thread at Lost Battles: Cheap and Easy Way to Keep Tiles From Sliding.
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