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I don't really want this game, but now it's number 5, and i'm getting the feeling I'm missing something. Is this really a gem? And why? I had the same feeling with 7 wonders, which I eventually bought and really liked. Don't really know what I'm asking.. Maybe I should delete this post.. or maybe someone understands what i'm talking about.. it's worth a shot
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It's a good game but you don't have to feel pressure because it's high in the rankings on BGG. If you've read the positive and negative reviews and still feel that you don't want this game because the theme or something bugs you, buy something you do want instead.

Don't succumb to the 'cult of the new'.

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thebearthatwasnt wrote:
I don't really want this game, but now it's number 5, and i'm getting the feeling I'm missing something. Is this really a gem? And why? I had the same feeling with 7 wonders, which I eventually bought and really liked. Don't really know what I'm asking.. Maybe I should delete this post.. or maybe someone understands what i'm talking about.. it's worth a shot
I don't think there's any such thing as a universal "must-have." That being said, it is (at least for me) an extremely good game, probably one of the 2 best in my collection (along with Agricola). In my opinion, if you can answer "yes" to a large majority (if not all) of the following questions, you should attempt to get a copy of this game:
* Do you like games that take 2-3 hours?
* Do you like resource management?
* Do you like space exploration?
* Do you like player-vs-player combat?
* Do you like strategic planning that still relies on dice rolls to succeed?
* Do you have friends that like these same things?
* Do you have a large (preferably round) table at which to play it?
* Do you have US$100 spending money available, and you you want to sink that into a single game?
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Yes, go get this game any serious BG must have this game in their collection.
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You ask a tough question.

I believe that not all games are created for everyone. Even the very best. As for purchasing Eclipse, my advice depends on what kind of games you like and what kind of games those around you like to play. While I consider Eclipse an easy and straight forward game to play, it does come with a learning curve that can be challenging if not approached wisely.

I consider this game a must play. And, I make every effort to teach/share it with those around me that I feel will appreciate the beauty of its design/theme.

I scanned your list of games, but you didn't have enough information for me to provide you a more solid response. I saw that you had Dominant Species and Puerto Rico listed but you didn't have any comments or rankings associated with these games. I was trying to gauge if you had an appreciation or preference for some of the mechanics that may be shared by Eclipse. That said, I was somewhat alarmed to see your group struggled at first to learn Dungeon Petz. If that was an experience bordering on negative then I would hold off from buying Eclipse until you had a chance to play someone else's copy.

Or, wait for the Ipad version to trial it.

 
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No game is a must-have. People can live long, fulfilling lives without even ever having played Eclipse. Or Puerto Rico, or Agricola for that part. If your initial instinct is to not buy the game, then don't go against it only because there are some people who vote highly for it. You don't know them, you don't know their tastes in games, so why would you trust their opinion on this game?

That said, I like it a lot. But I would never describe this game, or any other, as a must-have.
If you don't know whether to buy it, try and see if you can play the game somewhere - with a friend of a friend who has a copy, at a games convention, on the internet - and see if you might like it after all. Eclipse is quite an expensive game, so you should at least try it out before deciding to spend all that money on something that you might not like at all.
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It does a lot of things right and it is fun. It makes a nice part of any collection.
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If you like this kind of game. I like it ok, but still kind of Meh.

It all depends on what you like. You should have a friend buy it so you can play it!
 
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wow, this is a lot of respons in little time. As some people noticed, I do have a lot of lighter games in my collection, but I've reached a point, where I would only prefer to play those games, with people new to boardgaming. I like rule heavy, long games (the only game I own, I felt I wasn't ready for is brass). That being said, I do have be able to sell it to my gaming friends. Explaining them dungeon petz, was pretty easy, but I had to put everything ready before they arrived, so they wouldn't be scared by all the pieces, and the time it took me to put everything ready. That being said, they really enjoyed it. (It somehows feels better, that playing two light games in a row). I'm pretty much the only person who buys boardgames in my group of friends (a bunch of them buys games, after they've played it with me, but always games I already have) So I always take chances buying a game, and most of the time i'm correct about my prediction if I will like it or not (only exception is pandemic).
Thanks for all the help. I think I want it, but maybe not now...one of those games i'll buy on a whim after a bad day
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I like it quite a bit, my wife who isn't particularly into the theme and was scared by all the bits and iconography thinks it's fun, my hardcore gaming friends think it is the bomb and probably like it more than me, and the one who complains about how the group has too many games and that we shouldn't buy too many duplicate copies of games went and bought a duplicate copy (I bought it first).

Still, I say no. If you aren't particularly turned on by the theme or mechanics (which I was) then you can live without it. If you are like me though, you will talk yourself into ordering it eventually, likely sooner than later.
 
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This game is great. The economics of the game rules. That is by far my favorite part. That combined with the micromanaging of the ships, which is very rock/paper/scissors.

Add in the tile laying of the galaxy and huzzah to a great game.

Bear in mind this is a bit of luck, which can be mitigated to a certain extent, but I love luck in games. Particularly a war game like this.

To top it off this game plays SUPER fast for a space exploration/war game.

I have had this game since August, and I am addicted. I can't get enough of it. I am at about 25-30 games of it at this point, and I feel like it is still new each game.
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Recently played Settlers of Catan because my casual-gaming friends "wanted something quicker / easy to learn." It was enjoyable but seemed childish and sooo luck-based compared to Eclipse. I missed actually being able to use my mind to plan strategies to use my resources, rather than just staring at the dice waiting for payday. 90% of the time I play a board game I want it to be Eclipse. YMMV.
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No.

I traded mine away because it's not fun.
 
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YES! YES! YES! I worship this one! devil
But, back to the basic principle, each gamer has different preference and though game rank does give you some kind of insight into the game but it does not make it perfect for you. For instance, Eclipse and TI3 are somewhat similar from the outside, but the game play is different. If you like TI3, that doesn't guarantee you'll like eclipse and vice versa.
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It's a brain burner with moderate rules complexity but high strategic complexity that tests economic efficiency, war game skills, and diplomacy. There are dice and semi random setup for variety but the best players most often win. It is a game you should expect to play multiple times to fully appreciate. Game 1 is fun. Game 10 is even better. That all won't appeal to everyone. I love it!

If you do try it out be sure to have the rules down cold. Low player counts help with learning games as there is less downtown. Once players are up to speed the down town is not noticeable (for me). But it is a game that is not really understood on the first play so keeping game 1 short with fewer players gets people to their second game quicker. Playing Terran only is not necessary but highly suggested as it helps new players better understand the subtleties before aliens complicate things.
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YES. It is one of the best boardgames out there.

And I can't wait to pick up the expansion at Essen 2012...
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I want the expansion so badly it makes my spleen hurt.
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i am surprised how much "do i like it" thread lately asking over everyday random strangers over the internet and this is the most subjective one i have ever seen. it really reminds me of how my mum asking my dad if she is beautiful. you really sure we know better than you? perhaps we just should have been you?
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I want the expansion so badly it makes my mom's spleen hurt.
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Weird, I don't really care about the expansion. The 7-9p idea is pointless (I prefer 4p) and there's so much depth and polish to the base game itself, I don't really need an expansion to add anything or risk mucking it up. 50+ games in and every game is still testing my ability to adapt to the circumstances. Another 200 games and maybe I'd want an expansion. laugh
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ParticleMan wrote:
Weird, I don't really care about the expansion. The 7-9p idea is pointless (I prefer 4p) and there's so much depth and polish to the base game itself, I don't really need an expansion to add anything or risk mucking it up. 50+ games in and every game is still testing my ability to adapt to the circumstances. Another 200 games and maybe I'd want an expansion. laugh

Well by the time you reach you 200 games and want to get the expansion... it's already OOP and hard to come by, so better get it now even if you did not want to play it right now.
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Well that's the other part - can't find opponents IRL to play anything. I mean, if I got the expansion, I could probably guilt people into 2 or 3 games due to that fact, but then it would just collect dust like the rest of my stack of strategy board games. shake

Sure hope there's a Vassal module...
 
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ParticleMan wrote:
Recently played Settlers of Catan because my casual-gaming friends "wanted something quicker / easy to learn." It was enjoyable but seemed childish and sooo luck-based compared to Eclipse. I missed actually being able to use my mind to plan strategies to use my resources, rather than just staring at the dice waiting for payday. 90% of the time I play a board game I want it to be Eclipse. YMMV.


Haha, quite similar to me. I started out in this hobby a bit wrong: Agricola. Never played Catan until 2 months ago with a different group. For the entire game I was expecting ... something to happen that would make me enjoy it. Never did.

Eclipse its a must buy if you enjoy longer strategic games, a lot of backstabbing and player vs player action.
If your group doesn't enjoy fighting, or you think some friends will be put off by the fact that 2-3 of you will work together to attack 1, you really shouldn't get it.

It is a bit overwhelming at first, when you have hundreds of tokens an no one at the table knows how to play. But after 1-2 turns, everything becomes so simple, so easy. You wont be spending times searching for some weird rules that come into play only 1 in 10 games. Instead, you will be spending time working on your plan to conquer the entire galaxy.
 
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