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Tyler Bancroft
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We did a two person game today and the first card flipped over right at the start of the game was a prop card.

I didn't see anything in the rules regarding this scenario so we just voted to reshuffle the entire deck and start over but I think a more direct reading of the rules would be to just do the prop card as it is and move on?

This just seems that there could be a huge gap between the first prop card and the second.

Thoughts?
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Mark Evans
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This happened to me and I went ahead and resolved the propaganda card like normal, and went forward from there. It's a weird start but I didn't find anything preventing that from happening.
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I wonder if it might make some sense to shuffle the first Prop card into the bottom half of the first 12 cards (or bottom 2/3rds). Starting the game off with a Prop card doesn't sound like a lot of fun.

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Mike Owens
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This did come up in playtesting (2 player game), we resolved the Prop card as first card and moved on. It does mean Government gets a large shot of resources at the start but has to make them last for a long time.

[FARC ended up winning that game, BTW.]

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Steve Carey
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norwegiangeek wrote:
This just seems that there could be a huge gap between the first prop card and the second.


And that's OK (just different).

In a recent 2-player ftf game, we went two dozen card plays between Propaganda Rounds and it worked out just fine. Since COIN is a decision-making system of both actions and reactions, this large gap between Rounds led to a very interesting contest.

If Propaganda is your first - or a very early - card, players will simply need to manage their Resources and adjust their strategies. It actually adds to the game's already very high replayability factor, in my opinion.
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I agree with Steve. Last game we played, Prop card was the 3rd card, and the second Prop card was very late. I think we went 30 cards without a Prop, and that was a long long time for Government, who I was playing, as I got nailed with some events that gave minus resources and FARC did kidnap to me a few times. Nothing worse than Govt sitting at zero resources.
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Lance G
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patton55 wrote:
Nothing worse than Govt sitting at zero resources.


The IRONY in that contextual statement is laughable yet sad
 
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Happened in my first play.

I would normally just resolve the prop card and play on, but that did not seem right for everyone's first play. We reshuffled.
 
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Volko Ruhnke
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Because the Prop card will come up first every 16 games or so, and come up early more often than that, we had to confirm in development that the game still works, or change the Deck Prep routine if it didn't. We tested first-Prop games repeatedly; they always worked fine.

That said, a favorable feature of boardgames is that players can set them up as they like, however may best suit their tastes!

Cheers! Volko
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