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Eric Etkin
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Pretty simple question, I think: How complete are the rules for solo? Does the "factory setting" address solo play, or is this something grafted on that I'd need to chase down? Are the solo rules more or less identical to the group play?

Also... how much space does this normally take up during play?
 
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MOTHDevil wrote:

Pretty simple question, I think: How complete are the rules for solo? Does the "factory setting" address solo play, or is this something grafted on that I'd need to chase down? Are the solo rules more or less identical to the group play?

Also... how much space does this normally take up during play?


The rules are mostly the same as multi-player (except there's no pvp combat of course). The only addition is a dummy player deck that mostly acts as a timer limiting the amount of time you can spend during each round. Also, it gobbles up a few spells/special actions throughout the game.

Everything is included in the rules so once you get those down you're set. It does take up quite a bit of space but as long as you have a normal sized kitchen table or something of that sorts you won't have an troubles. I don't think I'd want to play MK on a standard square folding table though. That could get ugly.
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Perfect! Thank you!
 
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MOTHDevil wrote:

Pretty simple question, I think: How complete are the rules for solo? Does the "factory setting" address solo play, or is this something grafted on that I'd need to chase down? Are the solo rules more or less identical to the group play?


Solo play is built into the rules of the game. The rules are identical except for a few minor things that determine how many turns you get each day/night, what tactics cards are available each turn, and each round an action card and a spell disappear out of the game (one to the dummy's deck, one out of the game).

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It does take up quite a bit of space but as long as you have a normal sized kitchen table or something of that sorts you won't have an troubles. I don't think I'd want to play MK on a standard square folding table though. That could get ugly.


The standard layout takes up too much table space for a square folding table. I save a ton of room by combining all the decks to reduce table space. I combine basic and advanced units into one deck, drawing from top or bottom as necessary. I combine advanced actions and wounds into a single deck, drawing from top or bottom as necessary. And finally, I combine spells and artifacts into one deck, drawing from top or bottom as necessary. Having only three decks saves space for other things.

If you are really pressed for space, you can make combined or separate stacks for the advanced action, spell, and unit offers as well, rather than lay out all the cards across the table (9 at a minimum). Just be sure to keep the action and spell offers in the same order as you look through them. Doing this, I can get my table down to six stacks of cards (the three draw piles, and the three offer piles), which helps a lot. Or four stacks if I combine all the offers.

Getting rid of the day/night board saves additional space. Just make sure you keep it handy for reference on movement. You can't reduce the size of the fame/reputation board. You'll have to keep track of your score/reputation on paper to reduce the footprint there.

Lastly, I keep a paper bowl handy with all of the creature tokens in it. I just scan for the right color and draw. This not only saves space, but it saves setup time since you don't have to sort the tokens.

Doing all of the above makes the game very playable on a square folding table.
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I manage to play solo on a 80x120 cm coffee table.
I think it is just the limit...
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kalen wrote:
I manage to play solo on a 80x120 cm coffee table.
I think it is just the limit...


This would be a very cramped for me. To be comfortable, I would want about twice that.
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I think with this game, people are more likely to say that group play was grafted onto a solo game, rather than the other way around. :-)

The game plays great solo.
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Felkor wrote:
I think with this game, people are more likely to say that group play was grafted onto a solo game, rather than the other way around. :-)

The game plays great solo.


Yeah, solo first is primarily what I'm looking for. I noticed one of the common complaints of the game is downtime between turns, so I'd imagine that wouldn't be a factor in solo-mode, unless my other personalities get some serious AP.
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This is my favorite solitaire game at the moment.

I've played it with others, but the game becomes its most enjoyable once you've taken the time to learn the rules and figure out the strategies, so unless you have people available willing to do that it probably actually works best as a solo game.
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For me, MK is by far the most fulfilling solo experience played on board
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Thanks, everyone!

Ok, this is probably a done deal then once I get some spare cash and time.
 
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and once you master solo play, you can play by forum so you can get all the rules right moving forward

This is a very satisfying solo game with lots of replay value.
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I just want to say what others have mentioned.....this is a great game solo. Rick Royal and Paul Grogan have both made some really nice videos of how to play this game and I feel should be essential watching for anyone curious on how to play.
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I quess you are already convinced by now.. but just to be sure; laugh

This is one of the best (solitaire) fantasy board games ever!


Everbody should give it a try..
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This is what it looks like setup for solo on a 36"x42" ID tabletop:


Mage Knight is my favorite solo game!
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Benvgastel wrote:
I quess you are already convinced by now.. but just to be sure; laugh

This is one of the best (solitaire) fantasy board games ever!


Everbody should give it a try..


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