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Julian Cullop
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I have just checked out Spartan Games website. Currently miniatures are for pre-order at 40 British pounds (approx $64) for 13 miniatures. I wish Spartan every success-they produce good quality stuff- but that is a crazy price.

Here are a few price comparisons.

Scheltrum VSF range 5 white metal figures 5 GBP

Brigade Games Gaslight range 5 white metal troopers $16.50
Individual personalites $3.00-$4.00
Parroom range 5 white metal figures $13.50

RAFM Space 1889 range 20 British on Mars $29.95 (white metal)
individual Martians $2.95 (w/metal)

Cast the net a little wider and you get

Wargames Factory 20 hard plastic Zulu Wars British $19.95

Perry Miniatures 36 hard plastic ACW 18 GBP

Victrix 52 hard plastic Napoleonics 21.95 GBP
 
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You are looking at it incorrectly, the 'starter set' isn't just 13 minis, it is the complete game and also included are a deck of Game Cards, 24 Dice, Measuring Ruler, Token Sheet, Section Activation Cards and a printed version of the Quickplay Rules.

If you look at the infantry box, you get 6 guys for $20, this comes to about $3.35 per mini... I think that is a fair price.
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The stated price for an infantry section (6 mini) is 15 GBP.

The price for 2 'individuals' is 7.50 GBP.

Those prices are high compared to those alternatives I listed. Now I am sure that Spartan's stuff will be of a very high quality but so are the alternatives.

I am afraid I still think the starter sets are over-priced; basically you are just paying a lot of money for packaging- dice and rulers I already have.
 
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shallowgrave wrote:

The stated price for an infantry section (6 mini) is 15 GBP.

The price for 2 'individuals' is 7.50 GBP.

Those prices are high compared to those alternatives I listed. Now I am sure that Spartan's stuff will be of a very high quality but so are the alternatives.

I am afraid I still think the starter sets are over-priced; basically you are just paying a lot of money for packaging- dice and rulers I already have.


I respect everyone's opinions, but pricing, especially in something like a hobby, is relative. Sure, you can compare Spartan's prices with those other miniature lines you've mentioned, but Spartan has higher costs, I would presume. They aren't just making models (and damn fine ones, at that) but they are writing, editing and publishing rule sets for 5 different games (more to come soon).

They also do more marketing, they are a larger company with greater overhead, and personally I think their prices, while not cheap, are in the range of fair. Again, this is a hobby, and some people will pay this, others won't.

I respect your opinion that it is too expensive for your hobby.

Like it was mentioned, the starter kit contains the accessories, rules and miniatures.

Over at miniature market their starter pack is 50 usd. 50 usd for 12-15 models, loads of dice, rules, rulers, cards etc is, in my book, a good deal.

Their 6 model booster kit is 19.50 (3.25 per model)and includes cards
Their 2 model specialist kit is 9.50 (4.75 per model)includes cards
Their starter kit is 50-52 (avg 3.70 per model, including all the extras)

Free shipping over $100...so if you and your buddy each throw in 50-80 you get a fully playable, high quality, great looking 28mm game in WWI Steampunky goodness.

Sure, like i said before, not cheap, but for me its worth the quality, and I have faith in Spartan to be a company that will be around a long time and support their games.

You could pay more for games from newer, and less established companies, or you could pay less by using 3rd party miniatures. If that is what you want to do, more power to you. But I'd gladly pay Spartan's price for the quality and the staying power they have in this hobby where companies go in and out of business all the time.
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I think what you say is correct. When I posted my original comment, I did not intend to accuse Spartan of profiteering. They are talented figure designers, their miniatures are beautiful and I am sure that in some sense the prices are 'fair'. I would suggest that writing and editing rules probably doesn't account for a massive amount of their overheads however but a commitment to get large quantities of their products into as many retail outlets as they possibly can probably does. That is a business model and one that has been quite successfully pursued by companies like Privateer. It is in part a response to and in part a following of the business model pursued by Games Workshop.

Consumers have to ask how deep they wish to dig into their pockets to pay for the privilege of being able to pop into a local shop and pull something off the shelf. That should be a matter of choice. However what I was trying to point out was that there is a choice.

I really hope Spartan move from strength to strength. I'll go further and say that I even think it is would be a sad, sad day if ever Games Workshop went bankrupt (fat chance of that) but it is those funny little one-man companies operating out of a garage or garden shed who are the real life-blood of our hobby. Take a look at some of their products and make your own mind up-you'll get a lot more figures for your hard-earned bucks/pounds/euros.
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Well said!
 
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