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From $2.10 per insect.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5342698-OrangeOnions-Real-Bugs-Insec...

This would make for an incredible version of Hive.

Sorry, save for that bit of awesomeness there is nothing else boardgame related. Or is there...
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From $2.10 per insect.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5342698-OrangeOnions-Real-Bugs-Insec...

This would make for an incredible version of Hive.

Sorry, save for that bit of awesomeness there is nothing else boardgame related. Or is there...


Someone please do this!
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In for three of them - they'll make cool stocking stuffers for my sons. (Thinking they're pulling out a candy bar and it's....a millipede!)
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I bought this:

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BUGSCC02 Real Bugs Collect-a-Case with Free Black Scorpion $19.99 1 $19.99
BUG7 Real Bugs Asian Hercules Beetle in Resin $6.99 1 $6.99
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BUG5 Real Bugs Lantern Bug in Resin $6.99 1 $6.99
BUG8 Real Bugs Eastern Dobsonfly Larva in Resin $6.99 1 $6.99
BUG18 Real Bugs Curculionid Beetle in Resin $6.99 1 $6.99
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Perfect for boy's Christmas present.
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this could be considered cruelty to animals

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How? The bugs are humanely killed before they are encased in resin.

Yes, you are killing bugs for a trivial purpose, but it's not being done with any cruelty.
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How? The bugs are humanely killed before they are encased in resin.

Yes, you are killing bugs for a trivial purpose, but it's not being done with any cruelty.


Where did you get the info on how the bugs are processed for encasing in resin? I'm curious!
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yeoldemodelshoppe wrote:
How? The bugs are humanely killed before they are encased in resin.

Yes, you are killing bugs for a trivial purpose, but it's not being done with any cruelty.


How do you humanely kill a bug ?
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How do you humanely kill a bug ?


Usually by sealing the bug in a glass jar containing a rag soaked in chloroform. The insect is poisoned in a reasonably gentle manner. It can also be done by placing the container in a freezer until it hits ~0C; the risk is freezing the creature which makes it much less useful as a sample.

(I toured a museum entomology lab last year)
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killing an animal, bug or a dog or whatever to make a game piece is kind of messed up. one bug may not make a difference to you but it makes a very big difference for the bug.

science is one thing, games are another

what if when aliens conquered the earth and encased you in a carbonite "galactic-rico" worker chip ...?
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Supposing, killing bugs for fun is bad but killing bugs for science/education is OK.

What about when fun == education ?

I'd rather kids play with a few dead bugs if they play with them and learn about them, than have the attitude that a bug is simply a target for a shoe. If kids never play with nature, they may never learn to appreciate nature. Sadly, bugs in resin may be a significant part of some kids' exposure to nature.

To further sidetrack this thread into moralistic ponderings, are your positions against real bugs in games similar to your positions against folks painting gaming miniatures with the hair of a killed Kolinsky sable? Cute little things...

And to answer your question, I'd rather be a galactic-rico worker then a smear on the bottom of their alien-shoes. But yes, alien invasion would suck!
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that pre suposes the fact that playing games equals education

that also assumes that playing hive teaches you about insects

a bit of a stretch.....

its not a requiremnet to have dead beings to enjoy hive
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Wow we are bored tonight folks.

Go download alien frontiers on ios and play some games, that game rules.

Or remember that solo game of ------ youve been putting off for too long? Go break it out, upgrade the minis, put on lotr soundtrack, grab some ice cream, and save the world. Thats an order soldier.
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This reminds me of the time I used a horse's head encased in carbonite when I'd lost the knight in my chess set.

(+1 Star Wars/Godfather reference)
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zombie plumber wrote:
that pre suposes the fact that playing games equals education

that also assumes that playing hive teaches you about insects

a bit of a stretch.....

its not a requiremnet to have dead beings to enjoy hive


Yes, I agree its a stretch to claim that adults playing Hive with real bugs teaches much. However, kids' education that sticks in the mind often comes from places you'd least expect, and it typically comes when kids are playing and exploring on their own. My own kids will always "play with" a game and its pieces more than they "play" the game. Even if kids just learn that bugs are cool, that would be something, and maybe would lead to less killing. Regardless, I don't think anybody is actually building a Hive set from these piece: wrong shapes, missing species, etc..

My main point in posting was simply to make folks think a bit more about killing before having a knee-jerk judgemental reaction to it. After all, just about everything we do kills something: What about those bugs on the trees when they were sent into the paper pulper to make the card-stock for our games? Or smashed on the windshield of the UPS truck bringing our latest Hot-deal game that we only bought because of the great price? Most folks don't think twice about killing those, but once someone kills a bug and pays attention to it and perhaps realizes that the bug is super-cool then that's messed up?

Personally, I'm glad you don't want to kill bugs (me neither).

Here come the aliens to render our discussion moot... goo goo goo
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the above poster raises some very good points. i am glad i checked this thread again cause now i have thought about things in a different way and thats not something ive ever expected from BGG. im almost stumped. however...

almost all of those situations fall under the "sh!t happens" umbrella

people are free to choose what they do with their money and what enterprises they support. personally i think its a bit screwey to kill bugs to make game pieces. im all for getting kids interested in anything that gets the gears turning, after all, they are gonna be the doctors that fix my brain when im an old dude.



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Ozludo wrote:
Flamehearted wrote:
How do you humanely kill a bug ?


Usually by sealing the bug in a glass jar containing a rag soaked in chloroform. The insect is poisoned in a reasonably gentle manner.

Much like men sentenced to death by lethal injection are killed in a resonably gentle manner?
 
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Ozludo wrote:
Flamehearted wrote:
How do you humanely kill a bug ?

Usually by sealing the bug in a glass jar containing a rag soaked in chloroform. The insect is poisoned in a reasonably gentle manner.

Much like men sentenced to death by lethal injection are killed in a resonably gentle manner?

Compared to the other ways they might go, is it not reasonably gentle?
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I'm not sure where this got so out of control, but this discussion really seems in poor taste to me. Are we really going to question eachother's morality for playing a game about bugs with a real bug collection? I mean, really, no one is even killing bugs here. They're already encased in resin. You'd probably kill more bugs just going for a jog.

Also, I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but insects don't experience pain the same way as humans. We have nerve cells called nociceptors whose sole purpose is to create the sensation of pain. Insects have no such thing. Science! goo
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What is this 'jog' you speak of?
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What is this 'jog' you speak of?


I honestly have no clue. I've just heard wild tales of it taking place "outside". Apparently that's where bugs like to gather, but I wouldn't know as I've never been.
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Hello my names Tony and I'm a bug killer supporter - several years ago I purchased for my kids at Christmas resin marbles with bugs in them.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12409831

I've also found myself killing a few bugs every year when I go camping and I torture flies with fly strips and allow them to die a slow and painful death.

Has anyone seen the coffee???
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Hello my names Tony and I'm a bug killer supporter - several years ago I purchased for my kids at Christmas resin marbles with bugs in them.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12409831

Someday in the far off future, when all the bugs are extinct, some irresponsible genius will start an amusement park made up of giant bugs grown from the DNA extracted from these marbles.
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