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Glyn Allport
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Ok, im new to this boardgaming thing, only been gaming since Febuary. I have around 10 games including Eclipse, which is my groups favourite. Twilight imperium has caught my attention for obvious reasons. But is it worth me buying if we already play ecplipse alot? are they very similar?
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John Ibarzabal

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There are several really good reviews in this forum, you should read them.
The two games only share the theme, nothing more, and that alone cannot be the factor on whether you should have only one in your collection... that would make board game collections really short

Please take the time, explore the forums, specially the reviews, better people than me have already done a great job showing what ti3 is about.

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TI3 has a lot more depth and is highly immersive. The large number of unique race abilities, event and political cards, elevates the game beyond being just turn after turn of the same handful of actions being executed by each player. It is highly modular with a large number of "optional" rules/variants that you pick and choose to the ability or tastes of the group at hand.

I look at Eclipse as being a highly refined game, technically. A great set of mechanics with superb streamlining. Each game of TI3 however, is an "event". Each time I have played TI3, there comes a point when finally, somebody has looked at the time and the responses are always something like "Has it really been 5 hours already?" To me, that is testament to a game that is doing a superb job at pulling you in.
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Yes, they are similar and yes, they are different.
Theme is the same.
Mechanics are different.
FFG production is card driven (or maybe not driven, but everything is being represented by cards) - while Eclipse is blocks driven (no cards).
Eclipse has no politics
Fighting system is more simple (Eclipse)

Eclipse has 1 big expansion and two mini expansions vs 2 big expansions for TI3

I have both - I like both. I can conclude only in one way:
If you do not have enough time for TI3 - play Eclipse.
If you have time (and once you get the game you will try to do so, trust me - play TI3.

Good luck
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Nath1975 wrote:
Each time I have played TI3, there comes a point when finally, somebody has looked at the time and the responses are always something like "Has it really been 5 hours already?"


And then you notice that you've actually just finished the first round and still have 5-7 more to go. whistle

Actually, both are great games and if your group has enough time/interest, they do offer some very different experiences.
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DeePee wrote:
Nath1975 wrote:
Each time I have played TI3, there comes a point when finally, somebody has looked at the time and the responses are always something like "Has it really been 5 hours already?"


And then you notice that you've actually just finished the first round and still have 5-7 more to go. whistle

if it takes 5 hours to play a single round of TI3, the group is doing something SERIOUSLY wrong
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Eclipse is for the wannabes, TI3 is for the men.
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Mr Skeletor wrote:
Eclipse is for the wannabes, TI3 is for the men.


I never thought of it this way, but that would make Eclipse a good gateway game to TI3.
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HeavyGear wrote:
Mr Skeletor wrote:
Eclipse is for the wannabes, TI3 is for the men.


I never thought of it this way, but that would make Eclipse a good gateway game to TI3.


Conversely, Eclipse is a good TI3 detox game. Although I have not yet found myself in a position whereby I have had too much TI3. Therefore this is purely speculative. (and is a veiled attempt to sound objective while providing some weight towards a balanced argument in an attempt not to sound too TI3 biased...which I most certainly am )
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I like both a lot - because I like the theme they share.

As previous posters said, TI3 is always an event and takes a lot of time to play. TI3 has a lot deeper theme than eclipse. The part where the deeper theme is just some graphics or fluff-text is something I really miss in Eclipse. Also, the political game is a lot of fun.

Since we have Eclipse, TI3 almost never hit the table again - partly because you need to invest some time into knowing the rules and all significant special rules of the races, the technology-tree etc. to play it. And as we know of FFG-games, these rules are often non-intuitive and sometimes contradictory.

But I do miss thes TI3-Sessions. It is a game you can only enjoy with people who know the rules - which takes some loooong sessions. If your gaming group always changes like mine and a whole day of gaming is really hard to find - do not buy it. If you can spare the time and like epic gaming events - buy it.

A little off-topic: What I also like about Eclipse is the possibility to start with all players human - that way reducing complexity a lot. Maybe it would help to create some reduced TI3-rules-set to get beginners into the game.
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