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151st BS ......... 152nd BS ......... 153rd BS ......... 154th BS

BG...................BB...................GB..................GG


“Gentlemen at ease. Well we have had six days to rest up though the ships are still being repaired, but it is time to get back to business… ” Sgt. Murphy Pull the curtain please…”

We are always accepting new planes to join the group, as we start a fifth tour. For those of you just joining us, here is a summary of the "rules," as they are:
* I will be rolling up the mission parameters, fighter support, flak cover, weather and date for all missions.
* There is no required format for reporting your results, but the more info you present the more entertaining it is for everyone. If you track who gets injured, how many fighter kills, etc., then I can summarize that info at the end of the mission period for all bombers.
* All flights must be flown by the following Sunday (in this case, 12/12/02 ), and “jasta6” will prepare an End of Mission Report the following Monday. If you happen to miss a week or two, no big deal, just join back in when you can.
* All planes are assigned to a squadron. If you are new, just post a response in the thread giving your plane name and you will be assigned a squadron, here. Squadrons are being given a position (High, Middle, Low or Low- Low.) by jasta6, as recorded here.
* Lead and Tail positions are still being assigned to volunteers. Please note that only bombers in MIDDLE position can be lead, and only bombers in LOW-LOW position can be tail. So if you are in one of those squadrons, and nobody has yet volunteered for a position, roll 1d6. If you get a 6, you are the lucky winner.
* Our optional house rules can be found here.


”... Düren Germany… Good luck and Gods speed boys!”

General Anderson has issued the following statement to all crew commanders:
”This air operation today is the most important air operation yet conducted in this war. The target must be destroyed. It is of vital importance to the enemy. Your friends and comrades, that have been lost and that will be lost today, are depending on you. Their sacrifice must not be in vain. Good luck, good shooting and good bombing.”


MISSION One Hundred and Sixteen:
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1943 (6 day from last mission)
Primary Target: Düren, Germany. I/A ( Industrial Area - Center of City )
Secondary Target: None

Bomb Load:
------ B-17E’s: 10 x 500 lb G.P. bombs
------ B-17F’s: 10 x 500 lb G.P. bombs
------ B-17G’s: 10 x 500 lb G.P. bombs

Bombing Altitude: 26,700 ft (High Combat Box in the bomber wing)
------ High Squadron 26,950 ft (154th BS)
------ Lead Squadron 26,700 ft (151st BS)
------ Low Squadron 26,450 ft (152nd BS)
------ Low-Low Squadron 26,200 ft (153rd BS)


Gazetteer:
Outbound: Zone 2: –2 W / Zone 3: +1 F / Zone 4: 0 F / Zone 5: 0 F / Zone 6: 0 G
InBound: Zone 2: –2 W / Zone 3: 0 B / Zone 4: 0 B / Zone 5: 0 B / Zone 6: 0 B/G


Primary Target Flak O/B: Medium
Primary Target Flak I/B: Light


Primary Target Weather: Good 1/10 Cloud (No modifiers)
Base Weather: Good 2/10 Cloud Cover (No modifiers)

Fighter Escort:
(56th Fighter Group P-47’s O/B and 4th Fighter Group P-47’s I/B)
Zone 2 outbound: none
Zone 3 outbound: poor
Zone 4 outbound: fair
Zone 5 outbound: fair
Zone 6 outbound: none
Zone 6 inbound: none
Zone 5 inbound: fair
Zone 4 inbound: good
Zone 3 inbound: good
Zone 2 inbound: fair

Note:
---- - Gents, don’t forget to add your Squadron Positions modifiers to the above Gazetteer values.
---- - B-17G Rules are here
---- - Those using the GAF Placement Variant: Resistant is Light. (-2 Enemy A/C removed per wave)

Mission Special Rules:
A) None


Mission Map:


-Historical Mission: (from “The Mighty 8th War Diary by R.A.Freeman) Mission 116 The Mighty Eighth 1AD and 3AD flew to Duren with part of the 3AD also going to Woensdrecht. The 2AD flew a diversionary mission. 212 Fortresses sortie to Duren and Woensdrecht with 70 Liberators flying today. There were nine planes lost and four crewmen killed in returning bombers. Two men were wounded. Eighty-five were listed MIA.

The 303rd operation notes, for their mission 79, The 303rd saw some command indecisions that confused their bomb run requiring them to bring their bombs home. There was a further lack of fighter cover early on and this has been replicated in the Fighter Cover to represent this historic observations.

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**Please read and follow as it will help us collate the information for Mission statistics and the roster thread** Thank You!

For a more detailed report please proceed to the memo


Again, please remember I would like players to, at a minimum, list the Crew (pilots name with rank and Planes name of their Fortress at the beginning of all AAR post to help me facilitate updating the Roster List? Please use the format below as this will help me create the list in a timely manor.

If this format is not followed I may have to pass over your record as it takes more time to compile than it should have to. Adding this information will make it much easier to assemble this extra fluff for our campaign. Please remember to also add your pilot’s rank.

Thank You!

EXAMPLE wrote:
Pilot: 1st Lt.. Andy Anybody
B-17: "Bombs Alot/Miss Alot"


Also please add your Bombardment Squadron somewhere at the top too. This will help me in data entry. i.e. 154th BS

P.S. As I am keeping stats of the campaign for mission reports could you list your enemy aircraft probable and damage information as well as your kills in one short entry. Example: (KIA = 5, Prob = 2 & Damg = 5)

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281st BG (V) Aircraft Roster for Mission 116 [Düren , Germany. I/A]

- Player's Squadron Assignment can be found at this thread: Squadron Assignment

- Squadron Positions for this mission can be found at this thread: Squadron Positions

Mission : (Volunteers)
---- Lead: Lt. Victor Giles Crew in "Bottle to Throttle"
---- Tail: Capt. Vetinari's Crew in "Jingo"

151st BS - BG:
1st Lt. V. Giles Crew in (B-17F-55-DL 42-3403) "Bottle to Throttle" [AAR] Lead
1st Lt. Spike Scallion’s Crew in “Back in Action” (B-17F-35-VE 42-5929) [AAR]
2nd Lt. Clare T. Dallas Crew in “Coconuts” (B-17G-15-B0 42-31377) [AAR] Aborted
2nd Lt. Jack Russell’s Crew in “Spot On” (B-17F-110-B0 42-30563) [AAR] Crashed/Cat-E, Pilot KIA

152nd BS - BB:
Captain I McDowell’s Crew in “Manassas Junction” (B-17G-1-B0 42-31060) [AAR]
1st Lt. Wilbur Ottoman’s Crew in “Red on Yellow” (B-17F-70-VE 42-121115) [AAR]
1st Lt Walter "Roach" Williams Crew in “Brimstone” (B-17G-5-B0 42-31209) [AAR]
2nd Lt Jack Cooper’s Crew in “The Lady Luck” [AAR]
2nd Lt. Calvin Jones Crew in “Santa’s Work Shop” (B-17E-01-BO 41-1033) [AAR]
2nd Lt Ben York’s Crew in "Saratoga" (B-17F-90-B0 42-30167) [AAR]

153rd BS - GB:
Capt Tony Lazzeri’s Crew in “Knotty Knickers” (B-17F-45-VE 42-6078) [AAR]
Capt. Vetinari’s Crew in “Jingo !” (B17G-1-BO42-31129) [AAR] Tail Aborted
1st LT Morgan Cross’s Crew in “Sword of Damocles” (B-17F-75-BO-42-29887) [AAR]
1st Lt. George Thornton's Crew in "Fickle Finger of Fate" (B-17G-20-B0 42-31560) [AAR]
2nd Lt. Jason Barge’s Crew in “THAT MANGY CAT” [AAR] Aborted
2nd Lt. Keith Lund’s Crew in "Hell Bent" (B-17F-105-B0 42-30525) [AAR]

154st BS - GG:
1st Lt. Robert Browning’s Crew in “Angry Marmot” (B-17F-45-B0 42-5252) [AAR]
1LT. John Christoff’s Crew in “Flapper Girl” (B-17F-40-B0 42-5236) [AAR]
1st Lt. Bruce Mcclain’s Crew in "Marilyn's Gem" (B-17F-85-B0 42-30036) [AAR] Lost
1st Lt. Peter Parker’s Crew in “Black Widow VII” (B-17G-5-B0 42-31178) [AAR]


Col. Ronald Donnelly
Commander
281st Bombardment Group (Heavy)
Elveden Hall, UK
3rd Bombardment Wing HQ

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Pilot: 2nd Lieutenant Jack Cooper
Plane: The Lady Luck

Mission: 116(1)
Target: Duren
Squadron: 152nd
Position: Low
Bomb Run: Off-Target 0%

Crew:
Pilot - 2nd Lt. Jack Cooper(1)
CoPilot - 2nd Lt. Richard Livingston(1)
Bombardier - 2nd Lt. Joseph Whiteman(1)
Navigator - 2nd Lt. Jeremy Gibbons(1)
Engineer - SSgt. Christopher Lowell(1) - Fw190
Radio Operator - Sgt. Billy Smith(1)
Ball Gunner - Sgt. Owen Reeves(1) - Bf109
Port Waist - Sgt. Harold Evans(1)
Starbd. Waist - Sgt. Michael Niven(1)
Tail Gunner - Sgt. William Benson(1) - Bf110

( ) prior missions
Enemy planes listed are kills for current mission

Aircraft Status: Plane safely landed.
CoPilot oxygen hit
6 points of Superficial damage
Starboard wing landing break out
Ball Turret Guns out

51 points of damaged sustained.


Debriefing:
The flight out resulted in scattered waves of enemy fighters which easily broke through our fighter support. They met hellacious fire from The Lady Luck's crew but neither the enemy or herself took much damage. A couple of shells did penetrate the Pilot compartment and 2nd Lt. Livingston did receive a hell of a scare when his oxygen supply received a hit and his indicators began to wobble.

Flak over the target resulted in several near bursts but no lasting impact. Unfortunately, the bombardier's calculations were off and absolutely no damage was inflicted upon the target.

Circling back home it was more of the same, scattered swarms of enemy fighters although the The Lady Luck lived up to her name as no significant damage resulted. While she landed ok and the crew had their first mission under their belt, they couldn't help but quietly return to base with their heads down as not a single bomb was on target.


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"Sir, a B-17F approaching Elveden Hall without following standard landing procedures -- it seems to be intact but we can't raise it on the radio and six chutes have been spotted."
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"Sir, B-17F-110-B0 42-30563, the Spot On, has crashed attempting to land. Preliminary reports indicate no survivors on board. Units have been dispatched to recover the crewmen seen bailing out before the landing was attempted."
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Vetinari will take tail slot, in one of the Group sparesJingo !, please.




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gamer72 wrote:

Vetinari will take tail slot, in one of the Group sparesJingo !, please.


Granted...

Lead position is still open, Lt. Parkers Crew was lead for Schweinfurt and will be flying in the High Squadron this mission.

Ta,
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jasta6 wrote:
gamer72 wrote:

Vetinari will take tail slot, in one of the Group sparesJingo !, please.


Granted...

Lead position is still open, Lt. Parkers Crew was lead for Schweinfurt and will be flying in the High Squadron this mission.

Ta,
Jim


Then Lt. Victor Giles crew in "Bottle to Throttle" will slide to the Lead Slot.

Savvy?
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aerogoose wrote:
jasta6 wrote:
gamer72 wrote:

Vetinari will take tail slot, in one of the Group sparesJingo !, please.


Granted...

Lead position is still open, Lt. Parkers Crew was lead for Schweinfurt and will be flying in the High Squadron this mission.

Ta,
Jim


Then Lt. Victor Giles crew in "Bottle to Throttle" will slide to the Lead Slot.

Savvy?


Savvy! arhhhgggg!!! arrrh
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TO:
All 281st Bombardment Group (H) Personal

SUBJECT:
Rules of Engagement

MEMO:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Since we have many new players who may not be familiar with my occasional mission special rules, PLEASE DO NOT use the charts from last mission (115) on this or future missions. These deadly tables were just to replicate the highly deadly historical Schweinfurt mission. Sixty planes out of some 290 planes did not make it home that day. This mission was not meant for us to survive so if you made it back feel grateful for on that fateful day in history more than 600 men didn't get back to base, and many never came back at all. God rest their brave souls!

Col. Donnelly
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Pilot: Captain I McDowell
B-17: Manassas Junction (B-17G-1-B0 42-31060) (Mission 7)
Squadron: 152nd Bomber Squadron, 281st Bombardment Group
Mission: Mission 116, October 6, 1943
Target: Duren, Germany, Industrial Area – Center of City

Bomb Run: 20%
Over Target: YES
Plane Status: OK
Casualties: KIA: 0 WIA: 2 POW: 0 MIA: 0
Fighters: Destroyed: 3 Probable: 0 Damaged: 1

Crew Assigned: Position: Rank & Name (mission #) [Casualties], Kills, Probable, Damaged

Bombardier: 2nd Lt. AM McCook (6) [LW]
Navigator: 2nd Lt. RC Schenck (7)
Pilot: Capt. I McDowell (7)
Co-Pilot: 2nd Lt. D Tyler (7)
Engineer: MSgt. R Mason (6) K:1-109,1-110
Radio Oper.: Sgt. PC Hains (3) [LW]
Ball Gunner: Sgt. JL Chatfield (7) K: 1-109 D: 1-110
Pt Waist G: Sgt. JH Carlisle (3)
Stbd Waist G: Sgt. IF Quinby (3)
Tail Gunner: Sgt. WB Tompkins (7)

Fighters Encountered: Ace: 1, Average: 12, Green: 0

B-17 Damage: Rudder damaged, Radio Out

Peckham Points: 24

Landing: Safe landing at base in England

Special Note: N/A

In Hospital: 2nd Lt AM McCook [LW], returns next day
Sgt. PC Haines [LW], returns next day

Mission Description: Filed by Captain I McDowell

Morale in the Manassas Junction sank when we returned early from the Schweinfurt mission. Morale got even lower when so few other planes came back. The crew is anxious to demonstrate that they won’t let the squadron down again.

Butcher birds jumped us right away of the Channel, but no one hit anything.

In Zone 4 three Germans dove on us. Mason blew apart a 109, but the 110 opened up on the Junction hitting the rudder, the radio, and wounding both the McCook and Hains.
Schenck turned around to see the bombardier’s face covered with blood. Schenck grabbed the first aid kit and moved forward to see what he would do. They shared a look of dread (due to all the blood), but when he cleaned off the bombardier’s face, it was just a scratch.
“Heck, McCook" Schenck grinned, "I have gotten worse cuts shaving!"

The 110 came back for another pass and Mason blew him out of the sky. As we approached the target a single ace 109 dove at us from above. In a rare show of radio room gunnery, Hains destroyed the fighter.

The medium to light flak missed us both ways and McCook put 20% right on target.

On the return flight our little friends kept the Germans away and we made it home without further damage.

Manassas Junction returned with only minor damage. Hains took a bit of shrapnel in the leg, but will be ready to fly tomorrow. McCook’s scratch did look much worse than it was. He will be back tomorrow as well. The young bombardier is quite pleased with his new scar and claims that it will help him woo the ladies.
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Pilot: 1st Lt Walter "Roach" Williams
B-17: Brimstone (B-17G-5-B0 42-31209) BB-i
Squadron: 152st Bomber Squadron, 281st Bombardment Group
Date: October 20th 1943
Primary Target: Düren, Germany. I/A (Industrial Area - Center of City)
Secondary Target:None
Mission 116 (Bomber 1)
Position: low

Crew Assigned: Position: Rank & Name (mission #) [Casualties]
Pilot: 1st Lt Walter "Roach" Williams (1) [LW]
Co-pilot: 2nd Lt Raymond Davis (1) [LW]
Bombardier: 2nd Lt Jack Johnson (1)[LW]
Navigator: 2nd Lt Henry Taylor (1) [KIA]
Engineer Mst Sgt Arthur Jones * (1)
Radio Operator: Sgt Kenneth Brown (1) [KIA]
Port Waist: Sgt. Albert Miller * (1) [LW]
Starboard Waist: Sgt. Harold Smith (1)
Ball Turret: Sgt. David Wilson (1) [LW]
Tail Gunner: Sgt. Harry Moore (1)

Key:
½ = Half an Enemy A/C KIA
* = 1 Enemy A/C KIA
# = 5 Enemy A/C KIA

Bomb Run:
Bomb Drop: off target
Accuracy: 0%

Enemy Fighters Encountered:
12 (KIA = 2, Prob = 1, Damg = 3, driven off 4)

Claims:
Eng. A. Jones: 1x FW190
PW. A. Miller: 1x FW190

B17 Status: landed safely

5 out of 12 superficials
Peckham Points: 45
Autopilot disabled, 1xOx


Replacements:
New crew: Radio Operator and Navigator tba

Decorations:
Purple Hearts for:
1st Lt Walter "Roach" Williams
2nd Lt Raymond Davis
2nd Lt Jack Johnson
Sgt. Albert Miller
Sgt. David Wilson

Mission Description:
Compared to Schweinfurt this was not that dangerous for the plane. The first wave directly hit the pilot compartment, wounding both pilots on the first hit.
Over the target the autopilot was hit making it quite difficult to hit the City's industry.
On our way back an unlucky event loosened our formation but it was too late to be damaged anymore. The plane is fine but the crew was hit pretty hard, 7/10 were wounded or dead.
Maybe we should have insisted on our rightful Model F, instead we took the G granted by some desk jockey's mistakes...

1st Lt Walter "Roach" Williams
B-17: Brimstone (B-17G-5-B0 42-31209) BB-i
Squadron: 152st Bomber Squadron, 281st Bombardment Group
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jasta6 wrote:
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All 281st Bombardment Group (H) Personal

SUBJECT:
Rules of Engagement

MEMO:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Since we have many new players who may not be familiar with my occasional mission special rules, PLEASE DO NOT use the charts from last mission (115) on this or future missions.


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pvi99th wrote:
jasta6 wrote:
TO:
All 281st Bombardment Group (H) Personal

SUBJECT:
Rules of Engagement

MEMO:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Since we have many new players who may not be familiar with my occasional mission special rules, PLEASE DO NOT use the charts from last mission (115) on this or future missions.


And the Group rejoiced!


YEAH!
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wolverinetoddy wrote:
pvi99th wrote:
jasta6 wrote:
TO:
All 281st Bombardment Group (H) Personal

SUBJECT:
Rules of Engagement

MEMO:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Since we have many new players who may not be familiar with my occasional mission special rules, PLEASE DO NOT use the charts from last mission (115) on this or future missions.


And the Group rejoiced!


YEAH!


That's my Boys!!! shake
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Reports indicate that 'Angry Marmot' has suffered severe damage in the Radio Room and a walking hit from a FW190A. Bomber has lost one engine and perhaps radio operator, top gun has falled silent and seems stuck in a awckward position nearly at the exit of Zone OB3.

Bomber remains in formation.


Pilot: 1st Lt. Robert Browning
B-17: B-17F-45-B0 42-5252 “Angry Marmot”
Squadron: 154th Bombardment Squadron, 218th Bombardment Group (Heavy)
Mission: 116 (Bomber 9)
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1943
Target: Düren, Germany. I/A ( Industrial Area - Center of City )
Position: HIGH

Crew Status:
Pilot: 1st Lt. Robert Browning (8) | AM |
Copilot: 2nd Lt. Joseph Morgan (8) | AM |
Bombardier: 1st Lt. Joseph Simpson (8) * ½ | AM |
Navigator: 2nd Lt. Jack Norris (8) **½ LWx2 | AM |
Engineer: Sgt. Peter Smith (7) # PH
Radio Operator: Sgt. Ronald Longfield KIA
Ball Gunner: Sgt. Clay Godfrey (8) ##*** | AM | DSC |
Port Waist: Sgt. Richard Abbott (7) ½ PH | AM |
Starboard Waist: Sgt. Thomas Garner (5) *½ LW PH | AM |
Tail Gunner: Sgt. Ewan Krieger (6) #* ½ PH | AM |

Key:
½ = Half an Enemy A/C KIA
* = 1 Enemy A/C KIA
# = 5 Enemy A/C KIA

LW : Light Wound
SW : Severe Wound
KIA : Killed In Action
PH : Purple Heart
AM : Air Medal
DSC : Distinguished Service Cross

Bomb Run:
---- Bomb Drop; ON TARGET
---- Accuracy; 30%

Enemy Fighters Killed Before Mission: (KIA 36 / Prob 27 / Damg 5)

Enemy Fighters Encountered: )

ME109E : (ace average green – KIA / Prob / Damg )
ME109F : (ace average green – KIA / Prob / Damg )
ME109G : (ace average green – KIA / Prob / Damg )
FW190A : 7 (ace average 7 green – KIA 1 / Prob 2 / Damg )
ME110 : (ace average green – KIA / Prob / Damg)

Ace :
Average :
Green :

Driven off by escort : 11

Enemy Fighters Killed With this Mission: (KIA 37 / Prob 29 / Damg 5)

Claims:

Sgt. Clay Godfrey and Sgt. Thomas Garner downed a FW190A (IB3)

Medals and Promotions:

Purple Heart citation for Sgt. Longfield, killed in action. Sgt. Thomas Garner, wounded in action. 2nd Lt. Jack Norris wounded in action.

B-17s damage report:


Nose : Superficial Damage x 2 , Navigator LWx2

Pilot Compartment : Top turret guns inoperable

Port Wing :

Strb Wing : Aileron inoperable, #2Engine Oil Hit (2 zones then shut off), Engine #2 feathered

Bomb Bay : Bomb bay doors sup damage

Radio Room : Radio operator KIA

Waist : Superficial damage x 2, Strb Gunner LW

Tail : Superficial Damage x 2, Rudder hit , Port tailplane root hit


Total Peckham Damage : 107

Medic report:

Sgt. Ronald Longfield, radio operator has been killed for a shot on the hip.
Sgt. Thomas Garner, lightly wounded at the lower arm will be released after three days (October 23rd 1943)
2nd Lt. Jack Norris has suffered two light wounds at the upper arm and lower arm and will be released after three days. (October 23rd 1943)

Crew Unavailable:

- None

Spare Crew :

Tail Gunner, Sgt. Rupert Hanks (3) * ½
Port waist gunner, Sgt. Ian Porter (1)
Starboard waist gunner, Sgt. Paul Boyd (2)
Top Gunner, Sgt. Aaron Jordan (2) **

Landing : Safely in England.

Replacements:

Plane: none
Crew: requesting temporary substitute for Navigator position if mission is before October 23rd 1943 while we need a new Radio Operator.
Commander: none

Mission Description:
Subject:
20-October-43

Mission Debriefing:

The mission was uneventful, besides major unlucky shots received from the few aircrafts that passed through our air cover.

Our new radio operator died shortly after we reached the coast of France and our Navigator suffered multiple light injuries during the whole flight.

We were able to place the bombs on target with a decent result but I do feel unsatisfied. We have lost another men on a mission on the same position.

Formation flight was good and enemy fighter resistance didn’t seem so hard as it was in Schweinfurt.

1st Lt. Robert Browning
Commander of B-17F-45-B0 42-5252 “Angry Marmot” Pos. D
154th Bombardment Squadron, 218th Bombardment Group (Heavy)


Mission Note:

That's it, the radio room is jinxed. I have lost another radio operator and on zone 3 OB. This is absurd. It was an easy mission and this poor guy didn't even had time to got himself into the crew that was already dead. This struck me.

The Fallen

- Sgt. Raymond Gordon, port waist gunner, KIA on mission #107 (1st for Angry Marmot) on October the 3rd 1943.
- Sgt. Jeremy Sears, starboard waist gunner, WIA on mission #109 (3rd for Angry Marmot) on October the 5th 1943. Discharged and sent home.
- Sgt. Anthony McDowell, radio operator, WIA on mission #109 (3rd for Angry Marmot) on October the 5th 1943. Discharged and sent home.
- Sgt. Eugene Del Grecio, radio operator, 5 missions, ½ kills. KIA on mission #115 (8th for Angry Marmot) on October the 14th 1943.
- Sgt. Ronald Longfield, radio operator, 1 mission. KIA on mission #116 (9th for Angry Marmot) on October the 20th 1943.
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Without a call from the radio, lead plane Bottle to Throttle starts to descend in zone 4 inbound. It is apparent that their radio is out and are being forced to a lower altitude. Any planes from the 151st wishing to slot into the lead may do so, beginning in zone 4 headed for base.

Over the base, a B-17F begins it's decent towards the field. No radio call is received and flares begin to emerge from the top. It is the Bottle to Throttle.....
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Pilot: 1st Lt. V. Giles
Mission: 116 (2)
B-17F: 55 DL 42-3403 "Bottle to Throttle"
Squadron: 151st Rapture Time
Position: Middle - Lead Aircraft
Target: Duren (Industrial Area)

Crew Assigned:

Bombardier 2nd Lt Donald Miller (2)
Navigator 2nd Lt Arlan Rish (2) *
Pilot 1st Lt Victor Giles (2)
Co-Pilot 2nd Lt Samuel Dawson (2)
Engineer Msgt Henry Parrish (2) **
Radio Operator Sgt Delbert Scott (2) *
Ball Gunner Sgt Elmer Gibbons (2) *
Port Waist Gunner Sgt Leonard Anderson (2)
Starboard Waist Gunner Sgt Arch Fuller (2)
Tail Gunner Sgt Waldo Harrison (2) **


* one enemy fighter
# five enemy fighters
( ) missions

Claims: Engineer H. Parrish (1) ME109, Ball Gunner E. Gibbons (1) ME410, Tail Gunner W. Harrison (1) ME109, (1) FW190

Probables: (1)

Damaged: (4)

Crew Injuries/Casualties: Navigator A. Rish (FB-IH), Tail Gunner W. Harrison (SW-IH), Port Waist Gunner L. Anderson (KIA)

Bomb Drop: On Target - 50%

B-17's Disposition: Pilot & Co-Pilot Oxygen out, Navigators Heat out, Radio out, Intercom inoperable, Port Wing Root hit X3, Radio Guns jammed, Rudder damaged 66%, (10) Hits of a superficial nature. (134) Peckham Points - Repairable.

Mission Description:

We spiraled our way up for assembly and headed for the industrial area of Duren in the middle of the city. Not too keen on laying bombs onto civilians, but since they work the factories making instruments of war, it's a necessary evil.

We weren't even out of eye-shot of England when we were spotted by a trio of 109's. They must have been on a quick channel dash to be this close to Mother England. It paid off when the saw the group heading toward the mainland. We managed to escape damage even with no fighter coverage in the area to assist.

Another skirmish in zone 3 with a few FW's but, Waldo in the tail splashed one.

Quiet til over the target and a mix of bandits showed up. A couple of 190's, a 109 and even a 410. Elmer in the ball took out the 110 and several of the crew threw enough lead into the 109 for a probable. But a 190 landed several shells. Radio out, two port wing root hits, and knocked out the navigators heat.

Another wave moved in and added another shot to the port root. It was getting a little dicey hoping it would stay attached. The flak was moderate and we took a shot in the nose, but it passed through without significant damage. (Other than to the nerves of Don and Arlan). Arlan made them pay for their accuracy by showing them some of his. Half of the ten 500 pounders dropped into the heart of the complex and smoke soon turned to a blazing fire.

We wheeled out and avoided light flak off to our port side. In zone 5, we again picked up a mix of GAF fighters but managed to fend them off. Waldo picked up a 109, but was hit right afterwards and passed out. Henry in the top turret thought we were in for it when a single 109 lined up at 6 level and, with Waldo out cold, had nothing to stop him from unloading everything he had on us. He must have thought our tail gunner was drawing him in close for a kill of his own since the 109 pilot missed and dropped underneath the ship never to be seen again. We also lost the oxygen in the flight deck and, with no radio, we assumed the rest of the lead squadron would figure it out when we started dropping down out of formation.

At 10,000 feet, we removed oxygen masks and assessed damages. Arch in the waist found Leonard lying in a pool of blood dead. By now, Arlan was frostbitten and Elmer in the ball turret kept an eye on the port wing root area. He said he could see daylight where there shouldn't be, but it looked alright for now.

We got more action in zone 3 but nothing major. Almost home and three more 109's showed up. I swear they were the same that welcomed us hours earlier. With no fighter protection they made several passes but Henry knocked one down and the others were no threat.

Landing was a bit rough but she's home and in the hands of her crew chief to patch her up. Arlan will go home as will Waldo. So will Leo, but covered with the Stars and Stripes.

1st. Lt. Victor Giles - Bottle to Throttle
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gamer72 wrote:

Vetinari will take tail slot, in one of the Group sparesJingo !, please.






Regrettably, Jingo had to aborr in zone 2 outwards due to a fuel leak, so someone else will need to take tail from zone 3.




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In zone 5...we started dropping down out of formation.


As Bottle to Throttle drops OOF inbound, Back in Action assumes the lead position for the final leg home.
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After Action Report (AAR) #116

Pilot: 1st Lt. Spike Scallion
B-17: Back in Action (B-17F-35-VE 42-5929)

Squadron: 151st Bombardment Squadron, 218th Bombardment Group (Heavy)
Mission/[b]: 116 (Bomber 5)
[b]Date
: October 20th, 1943
Target: Duren, Germany. I/A ( Industrial Area- Center of City)
Position: Middle

Crew Status:
Pilot: 1st Lt. Spike Scallion (4)
Copilot: 2nd Lt. Gary Roachburn (5)
Bombardier: 2nd Lt. Marty "Kaboom" Moffat (2)
Navigator: 2nd Lt. Kirk "Static" Stevenson (8)*
Engineer: MSgt. Murray "Moses" Ebstern (1)*
Radio Operator: Sgt. Vincenzo Massimo (1)
Ball Gunner: Sgt. Glen "Boss" Hatchet (8)#
Port Waist: Sgt. Tom Keene (7)
Starboard Waist: Sgt. Biff Apscott (8)*
Tail Gunner: Sgt. Frank "Hitman" Hennessy (5)**

(Mission Number)
* = fighters shot down
^= ½ fighter shot down
# = 5 Fighters shot down (ACE)

Bomb Run : On Target
Accuracy: 50%

Enemy Fighters Encountered: 11 : (KIA – 3 / Prob – 2 / Damg – 0)
Fighters Driven off: 0

B-17s disposition: Returned.
Damage to rudder. 3 superficial hits.

Total hits: 5

Peckham Points: 23

Mission Description:

First I’d like to welcome our new crew. Particularly Sgt. Tom Keene, who was the only survivor of Charon’s Oar who was able to evade capture. It’s taken him over a month to get home, but he’s finally back and ready to fly.

Right off the bat we were hit by some GAF. Boss, in the Ball Guns, nailed his 5th Snapperhead. He is turning into quite the Ace!

We damaged another GAF in a second wave once we hit the North Sea. The waves kept coming and 5 butcher birds came at us from all around high positions. Hitman nailed one from the rear and 3 others were deterred, but an ace coming in from 3 o’clock high nailed us and hit our new rudder and delivered 3 other superficial hits. He came in again but was damaged by both the top turret and nose before flying off.

We then made it to Duren without further hassles due to protection of the formation.

The flak was medium and damaged our rudder a little bit more.

Kaboom nailed the target again with 50% on target! One of the best rookie bombardiers I’ve ever seen! He’s now 2 for 2 with 60% and 50% payloads delivered!

After the target a 190 tried to hit us with a vertical dive but flew off to the starboard. About 50 miles out an identical bird tried the same stunt but was nailed by our top turret.

Bottle to Throttle dropped out of formation in front of us and we assumed the lead position.

The remaining ride home was uneventful and we landed at the lead of the squadron.

Very good trip out, massive payload delivered and minimal damage to our bird. A perfect run.

1st Lt. Spike Scallion
Pilot, "Back in Action" (B-17F-35-VE 42-5929)
151st BS, 281st BG(H), 3rd Bombardment Wing
Elveden Hall, UK
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Pilot: 1LT. John Christoff
Plane: Flapper Girl

Mission: 116 (1) Duren, Germany - Industry
Date: 20 October, 1943
Squadron: 154th
Position: High Squadron


Crew:
Pilot: 1LT. John Christoff (1)
CoPilot: 2LT Nathan Yost (1)
Bombardier: 2LT. Karl Fogel (1)
Navigator: 2LT Ian MacClellen (1)
Engineer: SSgt. Wellman Bailey (1) - 1.5
RO: Sgt. James Hamilton (1) .5
BTG: Sgt. Gunther Thunberg (1) - 1.5
PWG Sgt. Frank Carrera (1)
SWG: Sgt. William Ardsema (1) SW - to be sent home
TG Sgt. Vernon Carter (1) 1.5 SW - to be sent home

Bomb Run: OFF Target 0%

Aircraft Status: Plane safely landed.
tail oxygen out - tail section suffered fire damage, port elevator inoperable, hole in portwing outboard fuel tank that self-sealed, 4 Superficial hits

Enemy Aircraft Encountered: 16
Enemy Aircraft Destroyed: 5 - 3xFw190, 2xBf110
Enemy Aircraft Probables: 2 - 2xBf109
Enemy Aircraft damaged: 3 - 1xFw190, 1xBf109, 1xBf110

Mission Report: Take Off and Landing without incident/Problem

Zone 2 Out: no encounters with Luftwaffe

Zone 3 Out: Hit by gunfire from formation, no serious damages. Luftwaffe came at us with two Bf110, both of which were shot down, one had an engine on fire and the second enemy fighter was seen to have its tail section shot away from the rest of the fusulage; no chutes were seen from the second Luftwaffe fighter.

The next three zones saw three Luftwaffe fighters make run at us, all three were hit by our defensive gunfire, none of the enemy fighters hit with their shots.

As we neared the target, we were hit by flak, the most serious damage being a hole in portwing outboard fuel tank that fortunatly, self-sealed.
But the flak shook us up a bit and Lt. Fogel missed the target.

On the return flight, a whole lot more enemy fighters made runs at us. Our escort fighters chased away several of them, we downed three of them, but several got to us, seriously wounding SWG Sgt. Ardsema and Tail Gunner Sgt. Carter. The oxygen in the tail was also set aflame, burning Sgt. Carter until Sgt. Carrera was able to extinguish the flames. I am not sure how Sgt. Carter survived. Both Sgt. Ardsema and Carter will be sent home when they are physically able to make the trip.

We landed without problem.

FLAPPER GIRL should be ready for next mission. Crew chief promised they'd have the tail section restored in a day or two.

Respectfully Submitted,

John Christoff, 1LT. USAAF
Pilot: B17F 40-BO 42-5236 (FLAPPER GIRL)
154th Bomb Squadron, 281st Bomb Bomb Group, 8th Airforce
Elevden Hall, UK
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Re: Charts from Schweinfurt:

Jim, I like B 8 Sch3 and B 8 Sch 4 - fighter location and level and the Gunnery charts that go with it (which include the 4:30/7:30 attack positions.....

I plan to keep using these...I've seen an occasional AAR where Luftwaffe attacks from 4:30/7:30 had been made, but these are the first charts I've acquired that includes these attack positions.

However, IF you really don't want these charts used in the rest of this campaign, I'll refrain from using them.

Thanks!

Dan
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Red on Yellow is in the middle of several flak bursts. When the smoke clears, she is still in one piece but with a leaking fuel tank and slightly off course. She dumps her bombs (way off target), but also dumps her guns and ammo. A radio message, "Doormat Bravo. Fuel is going to be very tight, but we might make it. We're counting on you to protect us."

With the English coast in sight, Red on Yellow's leaking fuel tank runs dry and she goes into a dive. There has been no radio contact for a while, but she appears to be on course for the 95th BG base in Framlingham.
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