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Subject: Timing question: Filtch, Defense Die, and the Cheese Wheel rss

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Therron Thomas
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Sorry if this has been covered but we found a timing issue that we couldn't answer.

Filtch has an ability where he can steal a cheese from the cheese wheel if he kills a rat.

The cheese wheel already had 5 cheese and awaits the last one to move the story forward.

The rat rolls a cheese and a ranged attack on his defense die and fails
to save himself.

Which happens first?

Does Filtch get the steal before or after the 6th cheese is put on the wheel?

If after is he out of luck and gets no cheese?

 
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Jeff Kayati
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Adding rolled cheese always goes first. If the wheel is full, you surge immediately.

Filch gets no cheese.
 
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Justin S.
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Not quite right. Filch still gets cheese. The situation reverts to the Cheese Wheel being empty. Filch gets a cheese from the supply, just not from the wheel.
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Jon Ben
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It has never been clear to me when the surge actually happens. Certainly the cheese is added immediately but does the surge happen before combat is resolved? The rule book on page 15 when describing when surges happen simply says:

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When the minion cheese wheel fills up with 6 or more cheese tokens, a surge triggers. Follow these steps...


I suppose immediately performing the surge makes sense but it does mean that you could loose a chapter while delivering the killing blow in a final battle, which seems a bit sad face soblue
 
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Damean Rendell
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This actually happened to me in chapter two. You can find the short discussion about it here.
 
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