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Brian Brokaw
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I'd like to have a list of "real" issues to debate, rather than color+agenda... I think it would be more fun.

example:

Category: Nuclear non-Proliferation
Agenda: Prestige
Issue: "Israeli nuclear weapons plant inspections"

-and-

Category: Trade Sanctions
Agenda: Innovation
Issue: "eCommerce Sanctions against Iceland"

-and-

Category: Humanitarian Concerns
Agenda: Wealth
Issue: "Halliburton's participation in Akkadian Empire reconstruction"

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Awesome idea! Gonna have to try this!
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brokasaphasia wrote:
I'd like to have a list of "real" issues to debate, rather than color+agenda... I think it would be more fun.

example:

Category: Nuclear non-Proliferation
Agenda: Prestige
Issue: "Israeli nuclear weapons plant inspections"

-and-

Category: Trade Sanctions
Agenda: Innovation
Issue: "eCommerce Sanctions against Iceland"

-and-

Category: Humanitarian Concerns
Agenda: Wealth
Issue: "Halliburton's participation in Akkadian Empire reconstruction"



We actually considered doing something just like this.

Once we decided upon the very useful ISSUE DISKS that the Secretary General would be using to move issues from the "Table" to the "Floor" for debate, however, there was no way to effectively represent all of that information.

This was a decision to go with "Function" over "Form". These types of decisions need to happen very often with games.

However, if a very enterprising person would like to create 30 such issues, these could then be posted in the files section here on the geek. It would make for some very interesting table talk if you had to say "I want Nuclear Weapons Plant Inspections in this proposal" over "I want RED in this proposal".

Would be interesting to see if people actually stayed "in character" and used these thematic terms...

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Hell no. You know how many people wouldn't be able to play this game with their relatives if the the decisions were real life political ones?
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Several years after these comments, but I just discovered this excellent game, and came up with such a matrix of real world issues, posted here in files:

boardgamegeek.com/filepage/163640

This matrix of the 5 types of resolution Category matched with the 6 types of Agenda yields 30 sample issues with which to describe your proposal. At the bottom are several sample counties you might apply each category to based on current events (there are many more you could choose, these are just to stimulate ideas). When we play, we give the Secretary-General a few moments to consult the table, pick his lead Category, then pick a country from the bottom based on that as well as tell a brief "story" based on the Agenda on the token, and then we start the timer. This can lead to fun bits like this:

Russia: "We put forward a resolution to impose Trade Sanctions on Sudan. We believe we the UN must impose an arms embargo (Peace agenda) on Sudan given continued allegations of arms shipments to South Sudanese rebels."

UK: "We can support that as we have heard similar reports, but we also demand nuclear plant inspections given our concerns of a secret nuclear weapons program based at the new reactors being built in Khartoum (Justice agenda)."

China: “Our intelligence tells us there is no nuclear arms program, those are simply power plants under construction for peaceful uses, so we regrettably must veto any such resolution. Also, we believe aid to the South Sudanese rebels ended years ago, so we cannot support that issue. Instead, we think the Sudanese should receive Humanitarian Aid to help improve their power distribution network (Innovation agenda) to better use those new nuclear plans, which Chinese companies are building.”

To be clear, these are fictional examples above, but you can borrow from real world events. Sometimes the stories can be amusing in themselves, as players riff on the original claims. By their nature, such issues and countries are controversial, but the intent here is not to take sides on these, merely to make a more interesting game.

Previously, players often just said “I want to add a red issue” or “I’ll veto if you add blue.” We found adding these issues makes the debate in this hypothetical political game a bit more real and fun.
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Running with that a little, you could simply create the rule that the Secretary General makes up what each disc stands for, perhaps even making it as silly as possible. Then when people are arguing one way or another, they must actually improvise a reason for inclusion/exclusion.

Keeps with the fun, light theme of the game, allows for a bit of satire but avoids being too 'on the nose' for those family members who perhaps don't want to sit around and debate real political issues.

 
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