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Subject: If Chess Is Recognized as an Olympic Sport, Why Not Wargaming? rss

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usrlocal wrote:
Discuss.


Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Maybe "Campaign for North Africa" can finally be played.
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I thought chess WAS a wargame.
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Kluvon wrote:
I thought chess WAS a wargame.


Here we go...
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jpr755 wrote:
Kluvon wrote:
I thought chess WAS a wargame.


Here we go...
Bahahaha!
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My wife would wipe everyone's arse and win the Battle Line gold for Hong Kong.

Wargaming an Olympic sport, why not Battle Line a wargame.
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...so want to post that glorious image of "Magic: The Gathering Girl"...with caption

"...Swedish Women's Olympic Wargaming Team anyone?..."

but don't want to incur the wrath of the certifiable serially offended RedX gang.
http://boardgamegeek.com/image/72721/magic-the-gathering
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"My wife would wipe everyone's arse and..."

A little late I know but just a heads-up: its 'whip' not 'wipe' (unless you meant to say "My wife will wipe the floor with you in Battle Line." or something to that effect). cool
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usrlocal wrote:
Discuss.


Please post an article showing it is an Olympic sport, including whether it will appear in the summer or winter Olympics. If you want to argue that it falls under IOC jurisdiction, and speak of IMSA and the World Mindsports Games, that is cool. But, just like bridge, it hasn't appeared in the Olympics, because people don't consider it a sport. It doesn't make physical demands on players. Maybe this changed for all I know, which is why I ask for the article. Info on IMSA can be found here: http://www.imsaworld.com/wp/

In regards to it being a mindsport, on the competitive level the IOC recognizes it, there is no luck factor. One can then look towards Bridge, and they play duplicate version, with teams. If you were to do your normal wargaming that way, it would have to be played duplicate style, with the luck element being identical. They do this with bridge, and are now doing it with poker, as in duplicate. It takes on an entirely different approach done duplicate. Backgammon has a BIG issue with this, as has poker.

Another thing here is that "wargaming" is not a game, but a genre. IOC would NOT have a genre in the Olympics. They would do a game only. So, which wargame do you want played at the Olympics, and which one: summer or winter?

If it were me, I would do 4 seasons of Olympics, one for each year. Between the gaps of the year, I would add a fall and spring Olympics, one dedicated to mindsports, and the other for stuff like more mechanical play, like motor racing and cybersports. That is me of course. And I would be up for wargames to be at the mindsports one, with style of play that would fully test the ability of players.
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Sokadr wrote:
"My wife would wipe everyone's arse and..."

A little late I know but just a heads-up: its 'whip' not 'wipe' (unless you meant to say "My wife will wipe the floor with you in Battle Line." or something to that effect). cool


I thought she was just being helpful.
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docreason wrote:
usrlocal wrote:
Discuss.
Please post an article showing it is an Olympic sport, including whether it will appear in the summer or winter Olympics.


The OTHER Olympiad: http://www.chessolympiadistanbul.com/
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Wargames, despite the fact that they pit players in direct conflict with one another, are very often not played competitively. Many wargamers play solitaire, or for "historical insight," almost cooperatively-against-each-other. They simply aren't skill-based games that you can study and play over and over again. Only a tiny percentage of wargames continue to be played after a decade or more--like Paths of Glory, Napoleonic Wars, ASL, Victory in the Pacific....
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The IOC has recognised chess as a sport since 1999. The world chess federation has 170+ member countries, 105 of which also recognise it as a sport. Chess has not appeared in any olympics, though FIDE (the world chess federation) made efforts to have it admitted to the 2016 olympics.
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Kluvon wrote:
docreason wrote:
usrlocal wrote:
Discuss.
Please post an article showing it is an Olympic sport, including whether it will appear in the summer or winter Olympics.


The OTHER Olympiad: http://www.chessolympiadistanbul.com/


ok, so since that's all cleared up,

can we change the question to

If synchronized swimming is an olympic event, why not Case Blue?
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Sokadr wrote:
"My wife would wipe everyone's arse and..."

A little late I know but just a heads-up: its 'whip' not 'wipe' (unless you meant to say "My wife will wipe the floor with you in Battle Line." or something to that effect). cool


Hey, give me a break, English is my second language. I got my point across, that's what matters.

(this is a jest reply, don't take seriously.)
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Two Olympic hopefuls practice for the 2016 winter olympiad
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I wonder what drugs will tested for the event? Ketamine?

I know for the wargame event it will be coffee and alcohol. I would like to see anyone tackle an OCS game or La Grande Guerre without one or the other!
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Because choosing which game(s) to be played will bring about a real war.
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Chess is better qualified since it has no errata or rules ambiguity,
which means it is not a wargame,
which in turn means wargame is a poor sport!
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Why did the Norse over a period of centuries suddenly erupt out of Scandinavia every summer bringing merciless brutality,bloody violence,rapine,murder and conquest to the rest of Europe?

...because they had nothing to do the previous winter except play f*****g chess!!!!
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Why did the Norse over a period of centuries suddenly erupt out of Scandinavia every summer bringing merciless brutality, bloody violence, rapine, murder and conquest to the rest of Europe?

...because they had nothing to do the previous winter except play f*****g chess!!!!

Crude and lascivious lout!! It's because they obviously misplaced the CRT and battle dice for Chess, not because of some wonted need for destruction. Get a hold of yerself!
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Before they allow chess in the Olympics, they need to rid the games of events like synchronized swimming anything, ice dancing, and that gymnastics thing where they run around twirling two sticks with streamers on the end.

And the IOC dropped baseball?
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I don't see you guys waging the kind of mate I'm contemplating. I'd let you watch, I would invite you, but the queens we use would not excite you.
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