Tim K.
United States Seattle Washington

I've read all the articles and still am not clear on how ties are scored
Specifically, I have no idea how to parse the following sentence found in the English rules:
Quote: "If several players tie, the points for the respective places are shared" Can someone spell out the general formula that applies to all scoring situations?
Most examples I've read only show what happens for a twoway tie for 1st. What happens in a threeway tie? And what happens when you have a clear 1st place and a tie for 2nd?
I'm confused

Jim Cote
United States Maine

There are only a few possible combinations. Say the 3 values for 1st/2nd/3rd are A/B/C.
2way tie for 1st: (A+B)/2, (A+B)/2, C nway tie for 1st: (A+B+C)/n, (A+B+C)/n, etc...
2way tie for 2nd: A, (B+C)/2, (B+C)/2 nway tie for 2nd: A, (B+C)/n, (B+C)/n, etc...
2way tie for 3rd: A, B, C/2, C/2 nway tie for 3rd: A, B, C/n, C/n, etc...

Matthew M
United States New Haven Connecticut
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I concur with what Jim has said. (I had posted my own response but stupidly forgot that the top three places score).
Finally, if there are two tied for 1st and ntied for third you get:
(A+B)/2, (A+B)/2, C/n, C/n...etc
MMM

Jim Cote
United States Maine

Ah yes, forgot that possibility. I've never played with more than 3.

Tim K.
United States Seattle Washington

Thank you!!!

Thomas Tholén
Sweden Norsborg

All the divisions rounded downwards.

Chad Rutt
United States Sherman Oaks California

I understand that when three people tie for first they split the first place scoring (rounded down), but what happens to the fourth person who also has that color tile in his Alhambra...does he get all the points for second place? Therefore, he could get more points than each of the three of the people ahead of him in that color tile. If this is correct I won tonight but dont feel as if I should have, but the rule dont state differently, unless I am misreading them. Any help please?

BibKamp318
Belgium Beerse [near Turnhout]

When three players tie for the first place, the points for 1st 2nd and 3rd place are first summed [A+B+C], then divided by three [= number of plyers that ties], then rounded down.
eg 3rd scoring round for red buildings. 3 players have 2 buildings, player 4 has 1 red building. Players 123 get INT((17+9+2)/3) = 9 INT = Integer function Player 4 score 0

Chad Rutt
United States Sherman Oaks California

Luk Van Baelen wrote: When three players tie for the first place, the points for 1st 2nd and 3rd place are first summed [A+B+C], then divided by three [= number of plyers that ties], then rounded down.
eg 3rd scoring round for red buildings. 3 players have 2 buildings, player 4 has 1 red building. Players 123 get INT((17+9+2)/3) = 9 INT = Integer function Player 4 score 0
AHHH got it. I did not figure that out from reading the rule but that makes sence. So that last two games I played were scored wrong, guess i did not really win last night after all. Thanks Luk!

Daniel Cristofani
United States Portland Oregon

EvilTimmy wrote: I've read all the articles and still am not clear on how ties are scored Specifically, I have no idea how to parse the following sentence found in the English rules: Quote: "If several players tie, the points for the respective places are shared" Can someone spell out the general formula that applies to all scoring situations?
If anyone is still wanting one formula rather than a set of them:
A player who has at least one tile of color c in her Alhambra, but has fewer such tiles than m players do, and exactly as many such tiles as n players (including herself) do, during scoring round r, will get floor((sigma i = 1 to n (score(r, c, m+i)))/n) points for color c in round r.
This assumes that the function score(round, color, place) gives values from the scoring tables, or zero where no value is listed in the printed tables; score(3, purple, 1) = 21, for instance, and score(1, red, 5) = 0.
"floor" as usual means "round to the nearest integer not exceeding the original value" and "sigma" means summation: compute values of the expression based on all integer values of the specified variable (in this case i) in the stated range (1 to n), and then add all the results together.
Edit: may as well add the onetile minimum explicitly here too.

Jeffery Hunt
United States Kentucky

Can anyone explain this with words and examples rather than confusing looking "formulas"? Us laymen just want to know who won.

United Kingdom Hinckley Leics

She did. You know it.

Jeffery Hunt
United States Kentucky

Always a safe conclusion. Haha.

Mark L
United Kingdom Belfast Northern Ireland

JefferyHunt wrote: Can anyone explain this with words and examples rather than confusing looking "formulas"? Us laymen just want to know who won.
Example A: If two people tie for most buildings of a particular colour, you add the points for first and second, and divide by two, rounding down. Each of those two players gets that many points.
If it's in the third scoring round, there are points for third place as well. Whoever had the next most buildings of that colour after those two came third, so they get the points for third place. Of course, there might be a tie for third place, in which case all those tied players divide the points for third place among them equally, rounding down.
Example B: If three people tie for most buildings of a particular colour, you add the points for first, second and third, and divide by three, rounding down. Each of those three players gets that many points.
Example C: If four people tie for most buildings of a particular colour, you add the points for first, second and third (because there are no points for fourth), and divide by four, rounding down. Each of those four players gets that many points.
Example D: if one person has the most buildings of a particular colour but two are tied for second, you add the points for second and third and divide by two, rounding down. Each of those two players gets that many points.
Obviously if there are two or more people tied for most buildings in the first scoring round, or if there are three or more people tied for most buildings in the second scoring round, they just share whatever points are available. And so on.
There. Clear as mud?

United Kingdom Hinckley Leics

It's jsut like class reuslts in school
You get
1st= 1st= then 3rd
Not 1st= 1st= then 2nd
or
1st= 1st= 1st= then 4th
not
1st= 1st= 1st= then 2nd or 3rd or 4th
You can also (at the end, say) get
1st 2nd= 2nd=
where 1st gets the 1st place points and the two 2nd= share the sum of the 2nd & 3rd places.
Cough.
Im hope that helps. A bit.


