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Shelia Wright
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Hi! I got my one coworker to play a few games with me... He really likes mastermind and Black box. I am hoping someone out there can suggest a game that is very similar, that one person sets up a sequence or layout and they other has to figure it out in the shortest amout of time. Mastermind is very fun but can only be played so much, and black box was getting too easy so I got black box + and that is great. But Im just looking for a new game that would be very similar... any help is appreciated!!
 
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Mutton is the first game that comes to my mind.

Further, there is Coda, where both players have there "secret sequence" and try to fin out the the others sequence.
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Shelia Wright
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Thank you both for your suggestions.. Mutton looks like it would be good.. any idea on how to get ahold of a copy.. not on bgg marketplace, ebay and only one copy for trade abroad! =(
 
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Shelia102881 wrote:
Thank you both for your suggestions.. Mutton looks like it would be good.. any idea on how to get ahold of a copy.. not on bgg marketplace, ebay and only one copy for trade abroad! =(
Nestorgames website: http://www.nestorgames.com/

Warning. Visiting the nestorgames website may be detrimental to the health of your wallet.

There is also a PnP version of Mutton on the game page.

Look at Black Vienna, which is not strictly mastermind lie in the mechanics, but uses deduction in a similar way. Hard to find the original, but again there is a very nice PnP version on the game page.
 
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What about something like Confusion: Espionage and Deception in the Cold War? It's a deduction game with a bit more theme to it.
 
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Oh, and the other game you absolutely must consider is Zendo. It is, however, inductive rather than deductive reasoning. You can play Zendo with lots of different things (there are games run on here using pictures, for example) but the original Looney Pyramids are probably best. Finding a copy of Zendo is very difficult. Pulling together the bits you need to play it, is straightforward.
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You might look at Code 777 and Hanabi.
In 777, you're trying to break your code before your opponent does.
Hanabi is a cooperative game.
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Zone X is said to be similar to Mastermind. I have a copy but have never played it.
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Martin Wallace's new P.I. is basically Mastermind with a theme (he himself refers to it as Mastermind meets Clue, but I don't really the Clue influence myself). The mechanics work a little differently than Mastermind. Different-enough that it should add some new challenge to the same idea.

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