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Stephen Ikari
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Ok, my playgroup consists of my Wife, my 9.5 year old Child, and me (occasionally we can get our 8.5 year old child who is LD to play Carcassonne).

Mostly we play Catan with fishermen, C&K, and Seafarers. (Looking forward to ordering the new Frienemies pack too!)

While we still love Catan, I think we should expand our collection a little. I am thinking of either Puerto Rico, or Agricola.

Would a nine and a half year old child be able to play either effectively?

Do either involve trading?

Thanks!
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It would be rough.

Go for Stone Age instead of Agricola.

Go for maybe Finca instead of Puerto Rico.

For trading, Colosseum
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Ticket to Ride is a sure winner, though there's no trading involved. I agree that PR is probably too "heavy", but Agricola should be ok if you only play the Family Game (which is included in the box). Again, no trading.

A good 2-player game will also serve you well, I believe. A current favorite is Jaipur. Good luck!
 
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I think Puerto Rico may be too dry to interest a kid.

Really depends on the 9yo for Agricola, even in the Family Game, there's a lot of room for outright failure. Not just not scoring well but "You can't feed your family, you have to take these negative VP" and once you're in that position, it's going to repeat itself.


I'd highly suggest Zooloretto, it's a nicely themed game with plenty of interesting choices and a solid amount of player interaction without becoming cut-throat.
 
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Shinji_Ikari wrote:
Ok, my playgroup consists of my Wife, my 9.5 year old Child, and me (occasionally we can get our 8.5 year old child who is LD to play Carcassonne).

Mostly we play Catan with fishermen, C&K, and Seafarers. (Looking forward to ordering the new Frienemies pack too!)

While we still love Catan, I think we should expand our collection a little. I am thinking of either Puerto Rico, or Agricola.

Would a nine and a half year old child be able to play either effectively?

Do either involve trading?

Thanks!


I've played Risk with my wife and my son when he was 4 years old. Admittedly, he was pretty random with picking who to attack; but he enjoys rolling the dice. He's 6 years old now, and he has a better idea of what he wants to do in playing Risk.

We've gone through a lot over the past two years -- Carcassonne, Forbidden Island, Pandemic, Dominion, Ticket to Ride, Dixit ... mostly with some heavy coaching from me or mom.

Currently, my 6 year old son's favorite games are pretty wide in terms of strategic depth:

Catan: Junior
Homesteaders

I'll probably introduce him to miniatures and wargames next summer when he turns 7.
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Forbidden Island and Ticket to Ride are fantastic recommendations.
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Stormtower wrote:


I'll probably introduce him to miniatures and wargames next summer when he turns 7.


lol, last Christmas my Daughter and I started playing WArmachine. This Christmas she is wanting to start a Hordes faction.
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Shinji_Ikari wrote:
Stormtower wrote:


I'll probably introduce him to miniatures and wargames next summer when he turns 7.


lol, last Christmas my Daughter and I started playing WArmachine. This Christmas she is wanting to start a Hordes faction.


Well if that's the case, go right ahead with Agricola and Puerto Rico.
 
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CrankyPants wrote:
I think Puerto Rico may be too dry to interest a kid.


It ain't just kids...
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After watching some reviews on youtube I think I am going to go with Agricola. I like the idea of their being a 'Family Version' then being able to go into the full game.
 
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Shinji_Ikari wrote:
Do either involve trading?
Nope. But if you like trading you should take a look at Bohnanza.

Between Agricola and Puerto Rico I'd go with Agricola, especially with younger children. PR is pretty unforgiving of significant differences in player strength. And, as you've already found out Agricola has multiple "difficulty levels". If you can't play it yet then it won't be long.
 
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Maybe San Juan instead of Puerto Rico? It's got a much smaller learning curve and seems to have a lot of the same feel.
 
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+1 for Stone Age
 
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