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I read Robinson Crusoe a long time ago. There is one noted error in the book: our protagonist strips naked to swim to the ship-wreck to scavenge for supplies. He returns with pockets full of biscuits. I wonder if this found its way into the game, and if not, could it, pretty please?

It is true that there is some controversy here: did he take off all his clothes? Did he have pockets in his breeches? Were pockets sewn into clothes at this time? Regardless, this has become part of the book's lore, so it would be great to have a little naked pocket Easter egg in there.

From the New York Times, 1902:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60612FB35...
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Not that I can think of, yet. But if the designer was not aware of this instant up to now (I know I wasn't, and I read the book as part of a study course), he certainly is now. And I would hazard a guess that you something like that could pop up in a future expansion, or promo...
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splanchnic wrote:
pockets full of biscuits

If i remember well, than there is a starting item: cookies
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Not that I can think of, yet. But if the designer was not aware of this instant up to now (I know I wasn't, and I read the book as part of a study course), he certainly is now. And I would hazard a guess that you something like that could pop up in a future expansion, or promo...


Maybe before the Zman version is released! That would be great. I'm very excited to try this game out - I really want a fun solo adventure game.
 
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Best thread title on the Geek.


Ha ha! Thanks!
 
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splanchnic wrote:
pockets full of biscuits

If i remember well, than there is a starting item: cookies


Maybe this was a nod to the mystery of the missing pockets - thanks!
 
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There is a starting item "biscuits" (in the english language version)
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There is a starting item "biscuits" (in the english language version)

- which is probably really a hardtack (i.e. the non-cookie kind of biscuit).
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bdean152 wrote:
There is a starting item "biscuits" (in the english language version)

- which is probably really a hardtack (i.e. the non-cookie kind of biscuit).


See there's a lot of thematic flavour to be had here!
 
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splanchnic wrote:
I read Robinson Crusoe a long time ago. There is one noted error in the book: our protagonist strips naked to swim to the ship-wreck to scavenge for supplies. He returns with pockets full of biscuits. I wonder if this found its way into the game, and if not, could it, pretty please?

It is true that there is some controversy here: did he take off all his clothes? Did he have pockets in his breeches? Were pockets sewn into clothes at this time? Regardless, this has become part of the book's lore, so it would be great to have a little naked pocket Easter egg in there.

From the New York Times, 1902:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60612FB35...


Maybe 'pockets' was a euphemism? Do you really want to know where he stashed those biscuits? Probably with the watch.
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I read Robinson Crusoe a long time ago. There is one noted error in the book: our protagonist strips naked to swim to the ship-wreck to scavenge for supplies. He returns with pockets full of biscuits. I wonder if this found its way into the game, and if not, could it, pretty please?

It is true that there is some controversy here: did he take off all his clothes? Did he have pockets in his breeches? Were pockets sewn into clothes at this time? Regardless, this has become part of the book's lore, so it would be great to have a little naked pocket Easter egg in there.

From the New York Times, 1902:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60612FB35...


Maybe 'pockets' was a euphemism? Do you really want to know where he stashed those biscuits? Probably with the watch.


Like I say, more thematic flavour... Okay that did it... Grossed myself out.
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bdean152 wrote:
There is a starting item "biscuits" (in the english language version)


I.e. the correct language version. :p
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bdean152 wrote:
There is a starting item "biscuits" (in the english language version)


I.e. the correct language version.


Well, the book was written in English so let's see what Defoe says:

(from the beginning of chapter 4 "First Weeks on the Island")

"...I resolved, if possible, to get to the ship; so I pulled off my clothes - for the weather was hot to extremity - and took to the water... And, first, I found that all the ship's provisions were dry and untouched by the water, and being very well disposed to eat, I went to the bread room and filled my pockets with biscuit, and ate it as I went about other things, for I had not time to lose."

So, he filled his pockets with biscuit, and later returned to shore on a raft. Whether he still had pockets or biscuit upon his return to shore is anyone's guess, I suppose.

In case anyone wants to read the original, it's in the public domain so it is freely available here:

http://www.feedbooks.com/book/102/robinson-crusoe

It's actually very good: gripping, tense, and with a thorough description of all the things Mr. Crusoe does to survive (sorry, hope that's not a spoiler ). May appeal to the survivalist in you!
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he may have pulled his outer clothing off, but still had on under garments, which during those days could have pockets. So there may be no error here. If the under garments were wool rather than cotton then getting them wet wouldn't be a big deal. (when camping you want to wear synthetic materials or wool as they dry easier and wick moisture away. Wool also will manage temperature better than cotton and can keep you warm even when wet.)
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I haven't read the book but if he does a bunch of stuff on the ship wreck one could understand filling his pockets with biscuits as some sort of metaphor for grabbing a bunch of them and then he ate them while still on the ship.
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I haven't read the book but if he does a bunch of stuff on the ship wreck one could understand filling his pockets with biscuits as some sort of metaphor for grabbing a bunch of them and then he ate them while still on the ship.


You may be right. I think I'll have to sit down and read it again while waiting for Zman to publish the game in North America.
 
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Who's to say he didn't carry his clothes with him on the swim out to the boat, and then put them back on once aboard?
 
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Who's to say he didn't carry his clothes with him on the swim out to the boat, and then put them back on once aboard?


Well, maybe we will never know... Unless I start a PhD thesis to search through Defoe's notes and journals for a clue. Unfortunately I don't have time for such diversions anymore... Just picked up the game last night! Actually it's funny, I took off all my clothes, went into my FLGS, filled my pockets with this game, and, well you know the rest of the story!

The game looks amazing - looking forward to a solo run-through tonight!
 
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The 1902 link above contains the answer to this "error". He stripped down to his breeches and socks. His breeches still had pockets. The only place the word "naked" appears is in the title of this thread, Defoe didn't use it.
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Who's to say he didn't carry his clothes with him on the swim out to the boat, and then put them back on once aboard?

The book says he left them on the beach, because he looks back to shore to see the rising tide starting to carry his clothes away.

Tide goes out, tide comes in, who can explain that?
 
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