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I'm on the fence with this one, just how great is it? I haven't seen a terrible review yet, besides the quality of components being a tad flimsy.

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Guess I'll have to say it again:

It makes my tribble purr.
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I call it a solid 8/10. As a "game" game, there are actually some balance issues - you can potentially be randomly dealt mission cards which combine with the location tiles you (randomly) placed nearby your CP to give you an early run-away lead, with your opponent(s) not being able to stop you. In addition, it can be a little on the long side. Some of the secret missions often make it possible to score points without the other side having any chance to prevent the points being scored, which I know is very annoying to some people (to me, to a certain degree).

For theme, if you are a Star Trek fan, there's nothing better to capture the general "feel" of the series and movies (well, other than the old FASA RPG, but that's a different kettle of fish).

People who don't like randomness will like it less, maybe bumping it down to a 6 or a 7. People who are super Trek fans and are willing to ignore the balance and randomness issues will rate it a 9 or a 10.

I am, confessedly, a fan of Star Trek, so I overlook some of the warts because it's just so dang cool to fly the Reliant into a battle with a Bird of Prey while the Nexus is bearing down on your sector and your away team on the planet below needs to be rescued.

How good is it? If you're only looking it as a "game"... it's fair to good, no better. If you're looking at it as an "experience", and you're a Trek fan, it's awesome.
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Of the four main trek game out at the moment, STFC, ST Tactics, ST-DBG, ST-E, this has the best feel and is closest to theme.
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Kozure wrote:
Some of the secret missions often make it possible to score points without the other side having any chance to prevent the points being scored, which I know is very annoying to some people (to me, to a certain degree).


Transmission Interference rule introduced in the Romulan expansion can lessen this pain.
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I love having the ship models to move around. I don't like the click bases. Since the ship cards have the same info I picked up some pointer shaped clips to slide on the card so I can ignore the click bases. The other components are fairly average.

I agree with others - this game is more for Trek lovers than game lovers. Though I've played with no trekker/ies who liked it.

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I should mention, that with a larger, longer game, the randomness evens out and there's less chance of a "sprint to the finish" ending.

With the right combination of missions, ships and amenable locations, you can jump up to 5 to 7 points in the first two to four turns, so if it's a 10 point game, it can be over quickly.

15-20 point games give more time (and more ships) to stop/prevent a runaway win. That does entail a longer game, however, and some people are only looking for a two hour game (instead of a four to six hour marathon).

As with many games where randomness is a major factor, if you give more opportunities for the randomness to occur, the outliers cease to be game changers and a proper bell curve distribution shakes itself out.
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Transmission Interference rule introduced in the Romulan expansion can lessen this pain.


You're quite right, though it does feel mean-spirited to do so.
 
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Kozure wrote:


You're quite right, though it does feel mean-spirited to do so.


You would make a poor Romulan.
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Geosphere wrote:
Kozure wrote:


You're quite right, though it does feel mean-spirited to do so.


You would make a poor Romulan.


I generally do very poorly when I have to play as a "bad guy", which is why I routinely get creamed at negotiation games.
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Shadow_Tracker wrote:
how great is it? I haven't seen a terrible review yet


I think you answered your own question.

But seriously, if you're into Star Trek, it's great. You'll recognize a lot of the encounters and various cards. The bigger the fan of the theme you are, then the more you'll appreciate the game.
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It's a decent 7/10ish game for me. It has a good Star Trek feel to it, but it's quite random, which I find does detract from the game.

If you are in it more for the feel than balance or deep tactical play, I'd rank it higher.
 
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I'm a fan of randomness!
 
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It may be the game for you, then!

I should clarify though, I'm usually cool with risks. Games where you can control the odds and then take a chance. Uncontrolled randomness I dislike, which I mostly qualify the location, mission, and encounter draws as.

But there are people who just flat out love the chaos, so this game is gonna be great for you if that's up your alley .
 
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I agree with the comment that it is a decent game, but an awesome experience. While the random elements can hurt the gameplay in terms of balance, it also enhances the theme. I mean, what is Star Trek without total randomness?
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OK I broke down and bought the game, from the geek marketplace got a awesome deal on it(I think anyway) for 60.00 plus shipping. New in Shrink.
Bring on the Star Trek awesomeness!!!

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I picked up the game on Sat. morning. We had a 4 player game that evening and from opening the box to the finish of the game, it took us about 5 hours.

I was on the Klingon side and my teammate and I got to 10 victory points fairly quickly. Oddly my 1st 5 missions were all green or yellow.

We decided as a group to continue playing to 16 points (even Klingons have feelings, we wanted them to enjoy themselves and kill more Fed. ships) and I have to say the Feds. seemed to perform very well once we were in the late game.

I give this game a solid 7 out of 10. It's not Twilight Imperium, but that's part of the reason I bought it, it seemed more laid back and more about the experience.
 
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Shadow_Tracker wrote:
OK I broke down and bought the game, from the geek marketplace got a awesome deal on it(I think anyway) for 60.00 plus shipping. New in Shrink.
Bring on the Star Trek awesomeness!!!


Whenever someone gets this get, new or used, I think required reading should be:Mysterio's Great Pictorial
 
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tkelly wrote:
Shadow_Tracker wrote:
OK I broke down and bought the game, from the geek marketplace got a awesome deal on it(I think anyway) for 60.00 plus shipping. New in Shrink.
Bring on the Star Trek awesomeness!!!


Whenever someone gets this get, new or used, I think required reading should be:Mysterio's Great Pictorial

Paper clips on the ship cards and away we go. I can't read those little numbers and it's must convenient than constantly picking up the ships to read or click them.
 
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