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Joel Toppen
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Hey guys,

As you may have already seen, the map art for the game is 99% done. It's a striking piece of art!



Currently the game has been priced for a cardstock map. Not a mounted map. We've asked what it would take to get a mounted map and the bottom line is this:

More preorders. About 100 of them. If we could get a bunch of new preorders in the next month, it may be enough to get the upgraded component. So if this game is of interest to you, please preorder today!

Thanks!

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If I hadn't already pre-ordered, this probably would have sealed the deal.
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Joel, that's one excellent map. I remember playtesting a very early version of the game so it's amazing to see the evolution to this.

I'm wondering whether you need to try and promote this game more widely on BGG to get those extra 100 or so preorders, perhaps with a front page designer's diary. Not sure how you go about that but W Eric Martin is your man.

Unless this image hits the front page then the only exposure it'll get will be to those subscribing to the game updates and those getting the GMT updates. But I'm sure there's an untapped market on BGG for this game.
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Yeah, whatever you can do to promote this, please do so! I want this game, and I'd really like it to have a mounted board too. I've already pre-ordered it.
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Thumbing this and the picture will bring it to the front page too.
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oeolycus wrote:
Thumbing this and the picture will bring it to the front page too.

Well, the image is front page at the moment, so keep those thumbs coming...
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I pre-ordered a long time ago. The old board looked cool and this board looks even awesomer (should be a word). Hate to be a form over function kind of guy, but I might pull back my pre-order if it stays a cardstock board. I totally get that mounted board = more money, but for me it's an expense that's worth paying. Big difference. I know I'm not speaking for everyone.

Good luck making it happen Joel. And congrats on all you've done so far.
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joel_m_toppen wrote:
Currently the game has been priced for a cardstock map. Not a mounted map. We've asked what it would take to get a mounted map and the bottom line is this:

More preorders. About 100 of them. If we could get a bunch of new preorders in the next month, it may be enough to get the upgraded component. So if this game is of interest to you, please preorder today!

-Joel


Maybe a Kickstarter for a mounted board??? $5-$10 for a mounted map?
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Well, pre-orders are at 687, which is good. So I don't understand, when Andean Abyss went to production it was around that and had a mounted board, so why wouldn't Navajo Wars get a mounted board? Is it because they don't project NW to do that many orders once or after it is initially shipped? I'm fine either way, but if it hits 700 pre-orders, it should get a mounted map in my opinion.
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Whoah! I just discovered this game thanks to the image's front page status.
I'm always on the look-out for a good solitaire game.
I'm subscribed and considering pre-ordering!
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patton55 wrote:
Well, pre-orders are at 687, which is good. So I don't understand, when Andean Abyss went to production it was around that and had a mounted board, so why wouldn't Navajo Wars get a mounted board? Is it because they don't project NW to do that many orders once or after it is initially shipped? I'm fine either way, but if it hits 700 pre-orders, it should get a mounted map in my opinion.


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You're absolutely right. It's too bad that some games are prefered by GMT and get more attention e.g. in production value than other games. I'm fine with cardstock but a mounted map would be gorgeous!
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Any news on the possibility of a mounted map? If GMT commits to it I will order immediately!
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Joel just mentioned in the GMT p500 geeklist that it was probably 900 preorders before a mounted map.
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GMT is reluctant to commit to an upgrade unless there are enough preorders at the current price point. That works out to be around 900.

When we first priced the game, a mounted map was going to push the preorder cost up to around $70 if I recall correctly. I felt that was too high and so we opted to go with a cardboard map. It was after seeing the striking artwork for the map that we've returned to see if the board could be upgraded.

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Is there any way for the public to track the number? Is it close? Is there still time?

Edit: I found the answer to most of my questions...

This game looks great and it would be a shame not to give it the treatment it deserves.
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It's already got some great treatment (not long on the P500!). I'd love a mounted map too but I understand the business decision. At least with a cardstock map, you can fit a counter tray or two inside the box. The Space Empires box will never sit flush again.
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On a completely unrelated note, some nice fellow has made a couple micro badges for the game! Working on getting them approved. More details when I have them. Thanks for the support!

-Joel
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Nice, I'd love the microbadge. Let us know. Any images of the final art work of the cards?
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patton55 wrote:
Nice, I'd love the microbadge. Let us know. Any images of the final art work of the cards?


Nothing I can show publicly yet. We're looking at the second drafts at this point.

-Joel
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Oh dear. Am I the only one who actually doesn't like the look of this board?

Not all of it - I'm just not sure about the spaces being represented by the coloured stones. I actually preferred the simpler spaces seen on the earlier version. I guess I would like the spaces to seem more like landscape than artistic representation...

But, hey, I still have my order in, and really look forward to playing it!
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The only problem I have is the spaces as stones, otherwise I like how beautiful this board is.
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That is how you start a Monday, map will be mounted according to the monthly newsletter!
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This just in from GMT Games: http://www.gmtgames.com/news.aspx?showarticle=266

As requested, the map will be upgraded to a Mounted Map!

-Joel
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