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Oiler1 wrote:
Why can't a company make and sell sets of mini poker chips? There is a market for it.

They were already on clearance when I found out about them and that was a couple of years ago.
 
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Oiler1 wrote:
Why can't a company make and sell sets of mini poker chips? There is a market for it.

A market, sure, but a relatively tiny one to the market for sull size 39mm and 40mm chips. Not economical for those in the business to make smaller runs of another size?

7/8" chips used to be more common, I think ... can still find vintage travel sets of mini chips in flea markets and auctions.
 
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Oiler1 wrote:
Why can't a company make and sell sets of mini poker chips? There is a market for it.

There is enough of a market to support the cheaper versions which you can currently buy. The nicer ones were on clearance for years before finally selling out at prices that were likely a loss. The manufacture said never again when approached. That's a pretty good indicator of what the market really is.
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cormor321 wrote:
Oiler1 wrote:
Why can't a company make and sell sets of mini poker chips? There is a market for it.

There is enough of a market to support the cheaper versions which you can currently buy. The nicer ones were on clearance for years before finally selling out at prices that were likely a loss. The manufacture said never again when approached. That's a pretty good indicator of what the market really is.
Although I think there was a bit of a product positioning problem. They were only ever sold on the single poker site. Never in game stores or on gaming websites. By the time boardgamers found out about them, they were already "done" and on clearance on the poker site.
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Quite. The market that exists for this product (chiefly BGGers, I suspect) is not the market that they were trying to sell to (poker players).

I wonder if there is scope to explore whether this sort of product could be added to the BGG store?
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RDewsbery wrote:
Quite. The market that exists for this product (chiefly BGGers, I suspect) is not the market that they were trying to sell to (poker players).

I wonder if there is scope to explore whether this sort of product could be added to the BGG store?

That’s an excellent idea!
 
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cormor321 wrote:
Oiler1 wrote:
Why can't a company make and sell sets of mini poker chips? There is a market for it.

There is enough of a market to support the cheaper versions which you can currently buy. The nicer ones were on clearance for years before finally selling out at prices that were likely a loss. The manufacture said never again when approached. That's a pretty good indicator of what the market really is.
Although I think there was a bit of a product positioning problem. They were only ever sold on the single poker site. Never in game stores or on gaming websites. By the time boardgamers found out about them, they were already "done" and on clearance on the poker site.

I doubt the size of the high quality miniature poker chip for use in board games market is large enough that better product positioning would have done anything other than making them sell out faster once they were already on clearance.
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RDewsbery wrote:
Quite. The market that exists for this product (chiefly BGGers, I suspect) is not the market that they were trying to sell to (poker players).

I wonder if there is scope to explore whether this sort of product could be added to the BGG store?

The inexpensive ones currently available, or the more expensive ones formerly available?

Would be interesting to see what that price point turned out to be.

I'm guessing the chips faced 3 primary challenges:

1. Players who are only buying 1 set: "If I'm going spend X for small chips, may as well spend a bit more and get a full-size set" and "No way my only set is going to be undersized, ego won't allow it."

2. These were historically a "travel" item, and the travel scene died. In the US, few travel by train or boat any more, haven't for decades. If you do take a cruise now, there will likely be a card room, with chips.

3. People go to venues (casinos, other player's houses) to play games and those venues provide the chips. And those chips are full-sized.

.... all that leaves only those with a peculiar interest
 
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The mini chips are really only of use in euro-style games that only require minimal denominations, bank size, and transactions--i.e., to replace cardboard/paper money in games where their use is mildly annoying.

Once you get into bigger economic games that have many, many transactions and require a considerable size bank, regular poker chips have far greater utility.

For what its worth, I have full-sized poker chips, mini clay poker chips, and the cheaper small chips that are still available. Of those, I use full-size chips in the vast majority of situations. In cases where I'd like to use a smaller chip, I lean to the cheaper/available mini chips rather than the mini clays.
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The mini chips are really only of use in euro-style games that only require minimal denominations, bank size, and transactions--i.e., to replace cardboard/paper money in games where their use is mildly annoying.

Once you get into bigger economic games that have many, many transactions and require a considerable size bank, regular poker chips have far greater utility.

For what its worth, I have full-sized poker chips, mini clay poker chips, and the cheaper small chips that are still available. Of those, I use full-size chips in the vast majority of situations. In cases where I'd like to use a smaller chip, I lean to the cheaper/available mini chips rather than the mini clays.

I do not agree. For my 18xx games too I only have a few denominations: 1, 5, 20, 100 and 500. That’s all you need.
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Tigrillo wrote:
rstites25 wrote:
The mini chips are really only of use in euro-style games that only require minimal denominations, bank size, and transactions--i.e., to replace cardboard/paper money in games where their use is mildly annoying.

Once you get into bigger economic games that have many, many transactions and require a considerable size bank, regular poker chips have far greater utility.

For what its worth, I have full-sized poker chips, mini clay poker chips, and the cheaper small chips that are still available. Of those, I use full-size chips in the vast majority of situations. In cases where I'd like to use a smaller chip, I lean to the cheaper/available mini chips rather than the mini clays.

I do not agree. For my 18xx games too I only have a few denominations: 1, 5, 20, 100 and 500. That’s all you need.

It’s not the number of denominations that makes regular chips more suited for 18XX than the mini chips. It’s the size of the necessary bank + number of locations chips can be + number of transactions.

Full-size chips are easiest to handle in transfers and the number of chips typically necessary is more than than the mini chips can handle. (It not just having a bank of a certain size, it’s having enough chips to cover all the locations money can be.)

 
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rstites25 wrote:

It’s not the number of denominations that makes regular chips more suited for 18XX than the mini chips. It’s the size of the necessary bank + number of locations chips can be + number of transactions.

Agreed. I, too, have a piles of chips. Mini chips are satisfactory when the money is incidental, more on the sidelines than not. Full-size better when the money is the star of the show.
 
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Well, I’m perfectly happy with my minis and I have a big enough amount of them. They also fit much better on the companies.
 
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I put a couple sets of these up for auction here: Mini Poker Chip Sets Auction - US Only - BGG.CON Pickup Available
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Hi, does anyone here want to sell theirs? Either the whole set or a few chips. Please PM me with your price - thank you.
 
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I may have a set of these lying around that I could sell. Anyone interested?
 
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sard0nyx8 wrote:
I may have a set of these lying around that I could sell. Anyone interested?

Yes, what’s your price?
 
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Looking to buy the full set of these. PM me with price please.
 
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oatmeal1201 wrote:
Looking to buy the full set of these. PM me with price please.

Look up the Age of Steam Deluxe Kickstarter that just launched. It's offering mini chips as an add-on. If you're patient you may be able to buy them by themselves via the pledge manager, and if really patient, through the Eagle-Gryphon site's components section later this year (hopefully).
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Just note that the 22mm ones in this kickstarter are 1.7g and the original ones in this thread were 7g and, I think, slightly larger/thicker?
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Malachi wrote:
Just note that the 22mm ones in this kickstarter are 1.7g and the original ones in this thread were 7g and, I think, slightly larger/thicker?

Right, what's offered on the KS is apparently plastic (must be at that weight), similar to the ones currently on offer at Discount Poker Shop, but prettier.

They look like those in the OP, but will not have the heft.

But they will be another mini chip option, which is why I shared it here.
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Malachi wrote:
Just note that the 22mm ones in this kickstarter are 1.7g and the original ones in this thread were 7g and, I think, slightly larger/thicker?

Right, what's offered on the KS is apparently plastic (must be at that weight), similar to the ones currently on offer at Discount Poker Shop, but prettier.

They look like those in the OP, but will not have the heft.

But they will be another mini chip option, which is why I shared it here.

I don't think they are new. They look like the ones shown near the bottom of the first page. In quality, size, weight, and use they are the same as the current discount poker mini chips. So the only gain is if you like the looks. Apparently Curt designed them. A UK company was selling sets for a while, but I think they can only be ordered in bulk now. Age of Steam looks like the did some color changes though.
 
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Slightly OT (these chips are plastic), but this game comes with mini denominated chips similar to the ones sold as "Poker-to-Go" several years ago:

https://www.amazon.com/Late-Sky-Hold-Em-Opoly-Board-Game/dp/...

Each set has ~300 chips, $1 - $500, total about $20,000.

The reviews on Amazon are hilarious, the first two basically say "throw away the game and use the chips for board games". That's what I did!
 
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I basically bought 3 copies of this game, just for the chips.

I found one at a thrift store, which is where I discovered the chips. I found one on Ebay for just a couple of bucks. I told the seller that the only part of the game I wanted was the chips. I asked him if he could just send me the poker chips in a padded envelope, and he could do whatever he wanted with the rest of the game; either throw it away, or sell the parts separately, I didn't care. And I found a third copy at another thrift store, still in the shrink wrap. I've kept the third copy still sealed, since I have 2 sets of the chips already able to be used.

The biggest complaint that I've heard from others when using these is that the colors and denominations don't match up with the "traditional" combinations some people are used to. But they are a very nice option for replacing paper money, and small enough that they can be transported to game days very easily.
 
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I have both those and the current discount poker mini chips. They are nice in that they have the denominations on for people that that matters to, but if you have to pay full price for the 'opoly game then the discount pokers with their frequent sales are a better deal. I got my 'opoly chips off ebay with no game at a heavy discount.
 
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