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I thought Marines were tough. It turns out that (former) Marine Ryan Smith whines that he might have to perform bodily functions with women present, and could be "traumatized" by the experience.

Hopefully, this feeble incapacity on his part is why they drummed him out of the service.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732353980457826...
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There is a time and place for the magic of bums and arseholes to be acknowledged.

Perhaps the military just isn't it?
 
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Lol, I work with a marine who would slap this guy silly for writing this article.
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Okay, who else is let down by David's utterly gauche thread title? I expect so much more from this man of refined sensibilities and impeccable reasoning! Why must all my heroes favor boots of clay? Well, okay, just Spiderman and David, but that's two too many.
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MisterCranky wrote:
man of refined sensibilities


That would be a revelation to, I guess, everyone who's ever met me.
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I think it's cool that women are now combat eligible.

Now... where is my flying car!
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If we are talking about the future now, where is my military that look like models Starship Troopers style, spending as much time in the mixed showers as they do fighting?
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DaviddesJ wrote:
MisterCranky wrote:
man of refined sensibilities


That would be a revelation to, I guess, everyone who's ever met me.


I met you, so you have guessed incorrectly. Which is, in itself, a revelation. I will pretend that I meant refined in the sense of "exact." I didn't, but who cares?
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MisterCranky wrote:
DaviddesJ wrote:
MisterCranky wrote:
man of refined sensibilities


That would be a revelation to, I guess, everyone who's ever met me.


I met you, so you have guessed incorrectly. Which is, in itself, a revelation. I will pretend that I meant refined in the sense of "exact." I didn't, but who cares?


Weren't you the one complaining about my shorts? Or was that another of my admirers?
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I complained about them from 3 years ago! For all I know they were the exactly correct shorts for you. I think I mostly was complaining about your socks, actually. In concert with your shorts. However, when we met earlier this year, you were urbane, witty, and well-dressed. I simply assumed you "got better."
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Before you are forced to point this out, however, I will admit that I was approaching drunkenness quite rapidly when we met.
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I do age like a fine wine, that much is true.
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I honestly don't care if gays or women are in the military or not. That said, there is one and only one function of our military and that is to defend our country. Its priority is not to appease every social group out there. If including gays and women in the front lines helps to improve its effectiveness then I'm all for it. If their inclusion proves detrimental then I am against it.
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phosrik wrote:
I honestly don't care if gays or women are in the military or not. That said, there is one and only one function of our military and that is to defend our country. Its priority is not to appease every social group out there. If including gays and women in the front lines helps to improve its effectiveness then I'm all for it. If their inclusion proves detrimental then I am against it.


Well firing a ton of our assets who spoke arabic (farsi I think it was) did not enhance our effectiveness.

I'd rather have a motivated female than an unmotivated male. We have a volunteer army.

Hmmm... if women are allowed in the combat units now --- then in 6 years they might be required in the combat units. That might change the mix of women who volunteer.

 
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chaendlmaier wrote:
phosrik wrote:
I honestly don't care if gays or women are in the military or not. That said, there is one and only one function of our military and that is to defend our country. Its priority is not to appease every social group out there. If including gays and women in the front lines helps to improve its effectiveness then I'm all for it. If their inclusion proves detrimental then I am against it.

Gays bring a lot of essential skills to the army:
- give lethal blows
- awareness of when the enemy is coming really hard
- equally capable of taking the enemy from behind or doing him face to face
- in trench warfare: experience entering smutty holes


You missed out the ability to disarm with a scathing comment at a hundred yards.

Plus we'd make the force look simply fabulous!

Being a flaming gayer myself I can assure you I've 'known' a fair few gay soldiers in my time, and I wouldn't mess with any of them. Not even if I had an enormous gun!
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I do age like a fine wine, that much is true.


So you're as sour as vinegar, eh?
 
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RoverGuy wrote:
But - the first time a male Marine whips out his penis to urinate, and a female Marine sees it, she will most likely contact the ACLU or NOW and sue for sexual harassment or for creating a hostile workplace(!!) and get the male Marine forced to take sensitivity classes.

Or a female former POW will sue the Marines for allowing her to be raped or sexually harasssed after caputure.

Women in combat - Let the litigation lottery begin.

Wouldn't this also apply to male Marines, or do you somehow think female Marines are different? If so, I think that says more about you than them.
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That caveat in place, I'm not sure how many would meet them, particularly when you start looking at the more rigorous standards for para's and the like.


Short of lugging around an M-60, I'm sure they'll do fine.
 
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jmilum wrote:
I think that says more about you than them.


You think?
 
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DaviddesJ wrote:
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I think that says more about you than them.


You think?

I don't know that he's not one of those posters that just says things for the sake of getting a rise out of people, as 'jokes', or really believe that shit. I suspect it's his actual view, but don't know for sure, so it's only a 'think'.
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RoverGuy wrote:
With our litigious society I can see within a year of the ban being lifted there will be a half dozen or so lawsuits brought against the military relating to women in combat.

Already there is legal question as to whether women will have to register for the draft when they turn 18 to comply with the law. Lawsuit waiting be filed…

And it’s more about how ‘sue-happy’ we are than about women in combat. My Subway sandwich is not exactly 12 inches? I am suing! My kid did not get into ? I am suing. Ad infinitum…


The point is, are you saying that women are more litigious then men? If not, then it isn't worth bringing up because you are already going to have a certain number of lawsuits per capita regardless of sex. The reasons for the lawsuits are immaterial.
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RoverGuy wrote:
Already there is legal question as to whether women will have to register for the draft when they turn 18 to comply with the law. Lawsuit waiting be filed…

And it’s more about how ‘sue-happy’ we are than about women in combat. My Subway sandwich is not exactly 12 inches? I am suing! My kid did not get into ? I am suing. Ad infinitum…

Litigious women or men? As for the draft, do you think a woman will file suit or a man? Currently women are already serving in combat roles, they just don't get credit for it, so why haven't men already filed suit regarding the draft?
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RoverGuy wrote:
jmilum wrote:
DaviddesJ wrote:
jmilum wrote:
I think that says more about you than them.


You think?

I don't know that he's not one of those posters that just says things for the sake of getting a rise out of people, as 'jokes', or really believe that shit. I suspect it's his actual view, but don't know for sure, so it's only a 'think'.


With our litigious society I can see within a year of the ban being lifted there will be a half dozen or so lawsuits brought against the military relating to women in combat.

Already there is legal question as to whether women will have to register for the draft when they turn 18 to comply with the law. Lawsuit waiting be filed…

And it’s more about how ‘sue-happy’ we are than about women in combat. My Subway sandwich is not exactly 12 inches? I am suing! My kid did not get into ? I am suing. Ad infinitum…


Subway sandwiches are actually only 11 inches. I know, because I measured it before I ate the evidence.

I didn't sue though.

As for the lawsuits, I'm absolutely sure some women will actually be sexually harrassed.

On another point, my friend posted on facebook about his tour in Afghanistan and how he didn't get to shower for 3 years, and made the point that women have hygiene needs that men don't have.

Another point, of which the effects remain to be seen, is the reaction of male soldiers to the death of female soldiers in combat.

Another point, is this going to lead to more motherless children?

Not being able to go potty is the least of our worries, I think.
 
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As for the lawsuits, I'm absolutely sure some women will actually be sexually harrassed.

Women are already being sexually harassed and raped. Very often by the high command. It's a very big problem. Perhaps if the Generals would stop doing it and show leadership in that regard, the other soldiers would see that type of thing as not ok.
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It seems that where ever there were only men before, women are treated badly when they get in there.
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