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hello everyone! I have heard of art games for computer games. Are there "art games" on board games too?

What sort of board games would be considered as "art games" and how different are they usually from the mainstream board games?
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Games about art or games as art?
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You mean games that are not for the mass marked but for some "special geeks"?
Maybe something like the games desigend by Bill Itch (http://www.edition-kranich.de/) or Thomas Fackler (http://www.zeitstein.de).
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Some games are art objects in the sense that they are hand-made, one-of-a-kind artifacts (but are still meant to be played as games):


(various games by Reinhold Wittig)


Some are clearly art pieces that happen to use the medium of a boardgame, perhaps to make a statement (but are not necessarily meant to be played by anyone):


(Train by Brenda Romero and Flux Wargame by Pronoblem)


Some are somewhere in between:


(from what I understand, it's almost impossible for one side to win in Demono, but it's a part of the game's “message”)


Some games just look pretty:


(from left to right: Fire, Ido, Calculus, Santorini and Axiom)
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slatersteven wrote:
Games about art or games as art?


Perhaps ideas of art (such as surrealism, relationships, etc) incorporated into a set of play mechanism to form a board game; "art" board game. An example of an art game for computer could be Bientotlete. Often, they are allegory of a message.

The game of Exquisite Corpse could in a way be a kind of art game, but not close to a board game yet, I suppose.
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Do you mean games like

Pastiche or
Fresco

or something like Dixit

or are you looking for a different concept entirely?
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alatuses wrote:
The game of Exquisite Corpse could in a way be a kind of art game, but not close to a board game yet, I suppose.


Your mention of Exquisite Corpse reminded me of Eat Poop You Cat, which, while not being a proper board game, is nevertheless recognized on this site as being a game enough to be included in the database.

You might be also interested in games in which players invent or manipulate the game's rules:
Nomic
Dvorak
1000 Blank White Cards
Mao
Eleusis
Zendo
Fluxx

Also, take a look at Dixit (already mentioned above by Andy) and the whole Storytelling genre.

I don't particularly enjoy arguing about definitions of things (“What makes a game an art game?”, “What is art?”, “Are games art?”, “Is art a game?”), but I hope that at least some of the games already mentioned will suit your intuitions and expectations.
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In the world of video games, the term art game isn't particularly well defined. A lot of times though, art games are smaller games meant to evoke a particular emotion or idea in the audience. (What emotions and how successfully they pull it off varies of course.) In that sense, there are surely art games in other media.
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PTKW hit the nail on the head with Train and Flux War, IMO.

Demono as well fits in the "Art Game" category.

Can you link to any video versions of art games that people can play and then draw parallels to?

I'm thinking of one where you're a researcher at a lab curing something, but then the cure mutates and you have to decide how to live out the rest of your days...but I can't remember the game's name. It made me cry.
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