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1. Noisy. They get a lot of support from hollywood liberals so their national profile's a lot bigger than than their clout.

2. Nope.

3. I think so, and I'm pretty liberal. Even if you agree with their message, their tactics and methodology are just idiotic. And for me, you have to be living in a nonsense fantasy world to be able to agree with their message.

To explain my POV, I honestly believe that humans routinely treat other animals in a way that is unconscionable. I think cruelty for the sake of saving money and time (product testing, cheaper hamburgers, etc), or just because we feel like it (mink coats, ivory) are not acceptable. I think cruelty for the sake of the advancement of humanity IS (medical/physical testing). There are ways we could change the way we see the relationship between us and other animals. Pretending that non-humans are human is not the way.
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chaendlmaier wrote:
I believe PETA mostly caters to the "animals are cute" crowd, who constitute most of their members and which makes up most of their agenda. It's no surprise then, their operations are more about emotions than rationality.


But don't their whackjob antics make it more difficult to have serious discussions and work toward actual solutions? Don't they make it easier to smear all who care about the environment as weirdos since you can just break out a "Bet you belong to PETA too"?

They're the environmental equivalent of Westboro.
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You should make that into a t-shirt! People love these original parodies.
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im exceptionally liberal and find peta rather reactionary

im not pro making animals suffer needlessly either.


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PETA wrote:
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is the largest animal rights organization in the world, with more than 3 million members and supporters.

PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time:
1) on factory farms
2) in the clothing trade
3) in laboratories
4) in the entertainment industry

We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds, and other "pests" as well as cruelty to domesticated animals.

PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.


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PETA has done some good work exposing cruelty in the fur and factory farming industries; but their over-the-top silliness (e.g., "sea kittens") makes it very difficult for anyone to take them seriously.

I'd say they're more comparable to the "pro-life" extremists than to the Westboro Baptist Church, since they rely so heavily on sentimentalism as a substitute for rational thought.
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I think a big part of the problem with PETA is they chose to frame their agenda in a conservative versus liberal setting. Who thinks people who would like humane treatment of animals are only liberal? That's a moronic position to take and will forever doom them from being taken as anything but a far out fringe group.

Humane treatment is no more a liberal possession than having clean air is. By constantly making these issues a win/lose battle against people who are conservative they always make things worse, make progress slower and PETA is partly to blame for not raising public awareness of how foul things can be and what alternatives exist to elevate society and make it more humane.

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PomInNZ wrote:
GameCrossing wrote:
chaendlmaier wrote:
I believe PETA mostly caters to the "animals are cute" crowd, who constitute most of their members and which makes up most of their agenda. It's no surprise then, their operations are more about emotions than rationality.


But don't their whackjob antics make it more difficult to have serious discussions and work toward actual solutions? Don't they make it easier to smear all who care about the environment as weirdos since you can just break out a "Bet you belong to PETA too"?

They're the environmental equivalent of Westboro.


Thanks for reassuring me my opinion of they isn't just media propaganda. their desire to get rid of all pets forever is just off the deep end stupid. This could only be achieved through mass extinctions of whole sub-species as there are no wild bulldogs, Siamese cats or most breeds of horse


Thanks, reassurance, and agreement on viewpoints in RSP? Something's wrong with this thread. Y'all are a bunch of hippies.
 
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PETA is comprised of a bunch clowns with seriously misplaced priorities and a complete lack of ability to think rationally.

I broke up with a girl because she started talking favourably about PETA. Shame too, because she was one hot mammal.
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Drew1365 wrote:
robigo wrote:
PETA has done some good work exposing cruelty in the fur and factory farming industries; but their over-the-top silliness (e.g., "sea kittens") makes it very difficult for anyone to take them seriously.


Actual PETA thing below.



Wow... that is batshit crazy. WTF is PETA thinking by creating that sort of literature?
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PETA in the uk are batshit crazy bunch of twats and psycos.

they seem to be the sort that think that they can stand firm against people who test on animals (or people that work in the same building as those who test on animals) by beating them to death or issuing death threats..

I am a firm supporter of testing on animals if done properly and for the right cause.. for example i think that we should be testing new cancer cures on chimps/dogs/whatever if done in a way to ensure suffering is at a minimum.. i firmly oppose testing cosmetic products on animals.

I see 'animal rights' demonstrators ni Norwich on occasion.. they are usually flouting pictures of practices that do not occur in the uk (like live skinning of animals etc) and claiming that it does happen in the uk..

there was a news report on it a few years ago when activists tried to kill a number of animal testers or office workers in the same company.. the outcome was that a number of testing companies moved out of the UK (where there are massive restrictions on what can and cannot be done, and independent inspectors that routinely check) to other countries (like spain) where restrictions are lighter or non existent and where attitudes are different, like spain where animal cruelty is not only allowed but encouraged..
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chaendlmaier wrote:
GameCrossing wrote:
But don't their whackjob antics make it more difficult to have serious discussions and work toward actual solutions? Don't they make it easier to smear all who care about the environment as weirdos since you can just break out a "Bet you belong to PETA too"?

Sure.

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They're the environmental equivalent of Westboro.

The Animal Liberation Front is the equivalent of Westboro. PETA is more like Jehova's Witnesses.
Ahh the ALF "we love all animals, except humans".
 
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Drew1365 wrote:
robigo wrote:
PETA has done some good work exposing cruelty in the fur and factory farming industries; but their over-the-top silliness (e.g., "sea kittens") makes it very difficult for anyone to take them seriously.


Actual PETA thing below.

 

 
Ohh you have to be joking?
 
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PETA in the uk are batshit crazy bunch of twats and psycos.

they seem to be the sort that think that they can stand firm against people who test on animals (or people that work in the same building as those who test on animals) by beating them to death or issuing death threats..

I am a firm supporter of testing on animals if done properly and for the right cause.. for example i think that we should be testing new cancer cures on chimps/dogs/whatever if done in a way to ensure suffering is at a minimum.. i firmly oppose testing cosmetic products on animals.

I see 'animal rights' demonstrators ni Norwich on occasion.. they are usually flouting pictures of practices that do not occur in the uk (like live skinning of animals etc) and claiming that it does happen in the uk..

there was a news report on it a few years ago when activists tried to kill a number of animal testers or office workers in the same company.. the outcome was that a number of testing companies moved out of the UK (where there are massive restrictions on what can and cannot be done, and independent inspectors that routinely check) to other countries (like spain) where restrictions are lighter or non existent and where attitudes are different, like spain where animal cruelty is not only allowed but encouraged..
As has been said I think that is the ALF, not PETA.
 
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mrspank wrote:
Wow... that is batshit crazy. WTF is PETA thinking by creating that sort of literature?

They were thinking "Hey, perhaps we should write bullshit instead of picking up animals from shelters and then killing them".

Not making it up. At all.
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General_Norris wrote:
mrspank wrote:
Wow... that is batshit crazy. WTF is PETA thinking by creating that sort of literature?

They were thinking "Hey, perhaps we should write bullshit instead of picking up animals from shelters and then killing them".

Not making it up. At all.
It's not cruelty if it's done out of love, unless it's done in the name of loving humanity of course.
 
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slatersteven wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:

Actual PETA thing below.
Ohh you have to be joking?

You can read more Sea Kitten stories here on the PETA website!
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Euroncrowseye wrote:
*doorbell*

Who's there? PETA? Very well then...




I'm hoping the irony will not be lost on them.
Ahh it makes sense now.
 
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GameCrossing wrote:
Don't they make it easier to smear all who care about the environment as weirdos since you can just break out a "Bet you belong to PETA too"?


It actually has a positive angle to it, as it makes it easier to dismiss the person saying it. If you are having a serious conversation about environment/animal rights and they pull out "Bet you belong to PETA too", I know I am wasting my time and need to move on to someone more intelligent.

As far as PETA goes, their heart is in the right place and they do wake some people up to issues they are probably in denial about, but some of their campaigns are ill-conceived and do cause more damage than good.

EDIT: I thought their "Got Beer?" campaign was pretty good.
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Thanks, that was truly bizarre.
 
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