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"Only Police should have AR-15 style weapons!"


http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-man...
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Without any explanatory text I'm having a hard time parsing the meaning of your title - I assume it's sarcastic based on your possession of an "AR-15 fan" MB.

Which would imply that you think it's a good thing that private citizens (as this ex-cop is) can amass an arsenal with which to hunt down active-duty police officers?

I doubt that's what you believe, but I'm having a hard time understanding why you would name the thread as you did
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The quote is from the ex-cop. He also had very kind things to say about Hillary and Obama.
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Huh, I did think of that and ran a search for "only police" in the text but came up empty. My apologies

Incidentally, your link cut out the crazy at the end where he talks about all the celebrities he likes and other random crap

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Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the fucking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.


I mean, I guess you only get one chance at a crazy manifesto, so why not go for the gold?

http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in...
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This ought to clear his name.
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Yeah I didn't notice that it cut all that out. Good catch. Doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Just pushed too far. I don't think he is justified. Just not crazy.
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If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!

You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.

Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I’ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It’s the truth.

Hillary Clinton. You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He’s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.

Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no shit taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.

Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.


He sounds like a liberal RSPer
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dandechino wrote:
Yeah I didn't notice that it cut all that out. Good catch. Doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Just pushed too far. I don't think he is justified. Just not crazy.

How do you define "crazy"? People who react with violent murder towards unrelated parties due to a grievance seem pretty crazy to me.
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dandechino wrote:
Yeah I didn't notice that it cut all that out. Good catch. Doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Just pushed too far. I don't think he is justified. Just not crazy.

How do you define "crazy"? People who react with violent murder towards unrelated parties due to a grievance seem pretty crazy to me.


Are we talking about the War on Terror?
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dandechino wrote:
damiangerous wrote:
dandechino wrote:
Yeah I didn't notice that it cut all that out. Good catch. Doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Just pushed too far. I don't think he is justified. Just not crazy.

How do you define "crazy"? People who react with violent murder towards unrelated parties due to a grievance seem pretty crazy to me.


Are we talking about the War on Terror?

We could be.
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dandechino wrote:
The quote is from the ex-cop.

You sure?
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jmilum wrote:
dandechino wrote:
The quote is from the ex-cop.

You sure?


That seems to be his belief. It is not a direct quote.
 
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damiangerous wrote:
dandechino wrote:
Yeah I didn't notice that it cut all that out. Good catch. Doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Just pushed too far. I don't think he is justified. Just not crazy.

How do you define "crazy"? People who react with violent murder towards unrelated parties due to a grievance seem pretty crazy to me.


He's declared war on LAPD and wants to inflict pain on them. That's not crazy- just immoral.
 
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dandechino wrote:
jmilum wrote:
dandechino wrote:
The quote is from the ex-cop.

You sure?


That seems to be his belief. It is not a direct quote.


"Daniel Coats is my best friend in the whole wide world and he and I share every belief and opinion. If I had to say who is the most like me, I would certainly say Daniel Coats"
-Albert Fish, serial killer (not a direct quote)
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So you think someone who says "Why does anyone need an AR15?" in the context of talking about gun control, doesn't believe that only the cops and military should have the heavy firepower? snore
 
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dandechino wrote:
So you think someone who says "Why does anyone need an AR15?" in the context of talking about gun control, doesn't believe that only the cops and military should have the heavy firepower? snore


I would say "Why does anyone need an AR15?" and I think the police shouldn't have heavy firepower in all except extremely rare circumstances. Hell, even the military should have some pretty harsh restrictions on what they can do with their firepower in non-war zones.
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dandechino wrote:
Doesn't seem entirely crazy to me.


This explains a lot about your contributions here.
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tscook wrote:
It is pretty cool that the police are murdering random people in blue pickups.


I thought they were only wounded.
 
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Dolphinandrew wrote:
dandechino wrote:
So you think someone who says "Why does anyone need an AR15?" in the context of talking about gun control, doesn't believe that only the cops and military should have the heavy firepower? :snore:


I would say "Why does anyone need an AR15?" and I think the police shouldn't have heavy firepower in all except extremely rare circumstances. Hell, even the military should have some pretty harsh restrictions on what they can do with their firepower in non-war zones.
They do, they are not allowed to carry guns except under specific circumstances.
 
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tscook wrote:
It is pretty cool that the police are murdering random people in blue pickups.




That's a crap ton of holes for shooting first without alerting the drivers to their presence. I can't imagine doing what you do every morning, which, in this case, was delivering papers, and suddenly being fired upon by the very people who are supposed to be protecting you.

The dude they're looking for is off his rocker, but incidents like this paint the officers in the LAPD and it's surrounding areas in the exact light he was trying to put them in. Care to guess if these officers will be brought up on charges for shooting these ladies, or would that be crossing that blue line?
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That's a crap ton of holes for shooting first without alerting the drivers to their presence. I can't imagine doing what you do every morning, which, in this case, was delivering papers, and suddenly being fired upon by the very people who are supposed to be protecting you.

The dude they're looking for is off his rocker, but incidents like this paint the officers in the LAPD and it's surrounding areas in the exact light he was trying to put them in. Care to guess if these officers will be brought up on charges for shooting these ladies, or would that be crossing that blue line?

That's fucking criminal. You're looking for a big black guy in a dark colored Nissan pickup. You can't even check that someone large, black and male is in the blue Toyota truck before shooting the fuck out of it? I guess the only saving them from murder charges is their incompetence at shooting people.

I guess the lesson we should all take from this is, "Don't drive a blue pickup truck in LA County if you don't want to die."
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damiangerous wrote:

I guess the lesson we should all take from this is, "Don't drive a blue pickup truck in LA County if you don't want to die."


is more like it.
 
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That's a crap ton of holes for shooting first without alerting the drivers to their presence.


How could you possibly know that they fired first without alerting the drivers to their presence?

Obviously huge mistakes were made, and there will be an investigation, but I also think you're making huge assumptions that could be entirely wrong.

From the position of the vehicles, it looks like they conducted a traffic stop and then the firing broke out, due to a misunderstanding, after both vehicles were stopped at the side of the road. In that case, the people in the car certainly knew the officers were there!
 
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DaviddesJ wrote:
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That's a crap ton of holes for shooting first without alerting the drivers to their presence.


How could you possibly know that they fired first without alerting the drivers to their presence?

Obviously huge mistakes were made, and there will be an investigation, but I also think you're making huge assumptions that could be entirely wrong.

From the position of the vehicles, it looks like they conducted a traffic stop and then the firing broke out, due to a misunderstanding, after both vehicles were stopped at the side of the road. In that case, the people in the car certainly knew the officers were there!

According to the women (via their attorney), they in fact did not know.
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According to the women (via their attorney), they in fact did not know.


Well, we'll see. I'm not going to take their attorney's word for it any more than I would take the police department's word for it. Clearly there will be an investigation and we'll find out a lot more. I don't doubt the police made huge mistakes but the situation still seems hard to explain.
 
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