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John Van Wagoner
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i know you mix in the dungeon expansion adv. cards with the other adv. cards when playing with the expansion, but suppose you're not using the dungeon this game? it's a pain to go through all the adv. cards and pick out the dungeon ones, so i'm wondering if it's fine to just leave them in the adv. deck and play? (having our 1st game tomorrow)...

(i was worried that the dungeon adv. might be too dungeon specific, and not work well with the base game and maybe "the city", etc.)
 
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Rauli Kettunen
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Could just do what people do with Arkham Horror when they are too lazy to separate the expansions, if they draw a card from an expansion not meant to be included in the current game, ignore and redraw until you get a valid one.
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so, based on your exp i really shouldn't use the dungeon Adv cards if not playing with the dungeon expansion? (i thought i'd read that FFG suggested mixing in any of the Adv cards, using the new characters, etc...even if playing just the base game)
 
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TBH, I have no take on playing without an expansion. If I own it, it's going to get used. IIRC (and quickly checking), of the Adventure cards from the Dungeon that go into the Adventure deck, Dungeon Door, Trap Door and Dark Denizens need the Dungeon board (and deck) to be in used, while Rune Gate doesn't (RG also comes in Highland).
 
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I would say go ahead and keep the Dungeon cards in the adventure deck. There are not that many, and when a dungeon entrance is drawn (or card related to going to the entrance), just discard and draw another, or say it is a bag of gold. Those few other just play as is as it will not throw the game off.
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For decades the users of the original full (2nd) edition had no easy way to discern the expansion cards from the base. So most of us simply played with all (or at least most of) the Adventure cards in one huge pile!
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If I'm not playing with the Dungeon I treat the Dungeon adv. cards thus:

Dark Denizens - ignore and draw a new card instead

Burrow Worm - normal enemy, just ignore its special ability

Dungeon Door - these cards are worthless space blockers and I don't use them, even if I'm using the Dungeon

Trap Door - removed these as well. Simply moving to the dungeon entrance is not terribly interesting and usually just mildly annoying
 
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Great Dane wrote:
For decades the users of the original full (2nd) edition had no easy way to discern the expansion cards from the base. So most of us simply played with all (or at least most of) the Adventure cards in one huge pile!


Well there was the different versions of green used on the backs of the Adventure cards.

Funny now I realize that wasn't a printing error -- it was a way of separating the cards.

 
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clip611 wrote:
Great Dane wrote:
For decades the users of the original full (2nd) edition had no easy way to discern the expansion cards from the base. So most of us simply played with all (or at least most of) the Adventure cards in one huge pile!


Well there was the different versions of green used on the backs of the Adventure cards.

Funny now I realize that wasn't a printing error -- it was a way of separating the cards.

Not really. There were too many different shades of green and yellow. But luckily that meant that it wasn't easy to spot which expansion (or freebie) it was from when drawing cards.
 
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Here is a quick guide, ditch the cards in red (23 Cards) and add 145 cards to your Adventure Deck.

P.S. I read all the cards for you, you can just take my word for it.

1 ENEMY - ANIMAL CARD

D 1 BURROW WORM DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Burrow_Worm

3 ENEMY - MONSTER CARD

D 1 GOBLIN AMBUSHER DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Ambusher
D 2 GOBLIN TUNNELER DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Tunneler

2 ENEMY - SPIRIT CARD

D 2 BLIGHT HAUNT DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Blight_Haunt

7 EVENT CARD

D 1 CAVE-IN DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Cave-In
D 2 DARK DENIZENS DUNGEON DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Dark_Denizens
D 1 LONE DWARF DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Lone_Dwarf
D 2 TRAP DOOR DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Trap_Door
D 1 TRAP DOOR DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Trap_Door

2 FOLLOWER CARD

D 1 HUNCHBACK DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Hunchback
D 1 TUNNEL FIGHTER DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Tunnel_Fighter

3 OBJECT CARD

D 1 OATHS OF VENGEANCE DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Oaths_of_Vengeance
D 2 TORCH DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Torch

4 PLACE CARD

D 2 DUNGEON DOOR DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Dungeon_Door
D 1 PASSAGEWAY DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Passageway
D 1 SECRET PASSAGE DUNGEON SPACE http://www.talismanwiki.com/Secret_Passage

1 STRANGER CARD

D 1 ORACLE DUNGEON DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Oracle

20 SPELL CARD

D 2 CRAFT ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Craft_(Spell)
D 2 DIVINE INTERVENTION ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Divine_Intervention
D 1 FINGER OF DEATH ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Finger_of_Death
D 2 MAGIC PORTAL ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Magic_Portal_(Spell)
D 1 MAGIC SHELL ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Magic_Shell
D 2 RESTORATION ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Restoration
D 2 SPELL CALL ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Spell_Call
D 2 STRENGTH ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Strength_(Spell)
D 1 SUMMON STORM ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Summon_Storm
D 1 TEMPORAL VORTEX ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Temporal_Vortex
D 2 TWIST OF FATE ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Twist_of_Fate
D 2 WEAKNESS ADD TO SPELL DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Weakness

9 ENEMY - ANIMAL CARD

D 2 GIANT BEETLE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Giant_Beetle
D 3 GIANT RAT IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Giant_Rat
D 2 GIANT WORM IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Giant_Worm
D 2 UMBRA SPIDER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Umbra_Spider

7 ENEMY - CONSTRUCT CARD

D 2 BATTLE HULK IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Battle_Hulk
D 1 GATE SMASHER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Gate_Smasher
D 2 GRINDER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Grinder
D 2 LIVING STATUE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Living_Statue

8 ENEMY - CULTIST CARD

D 2 DARK ACOLYTE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Dark_Acolyte
D 2 SERVANT OF DARKNESS IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Servant_of_Darkness
D 2 SOULBINDER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Soulbinder
D 2 VASSAL OF DARKNESS NEUTRAL ALIGNMENT http://www.talismanwiki.com/Vassal_of_Darkness

2 ENEMY - DRAGON CARD

D 1 BRONZE DRAGON IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Bronze_Dragon
D 1 MISER DRAGON IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Miser_Dragon

26 ENEMY - MONSTER CARD

D 2 BLACK ELF IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Black_Elf
D 1 BLOODROOT IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Bloodroot
D 3 CAVE GOBLIN IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Cave_Goblin
D 2 CAVE TROLL IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Cave_Troll
D 1 COLOSSAL OGRE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Colossal_Ogre
D 2 CRAWLING SLIME IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Crawling_Slime
D 1 GARGOYLE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Gargoyle
D 3 GNOLL IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Gnoll
D 1 GOBLIN KING IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_King
D 1 GOBLIN MARAUDERS IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Marauders
D 1 GOBLIN MARAUDERS IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Marauders
D 1 GOBLIN MARAUDERS IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Marauders
D 2 GOBLIN SNIPER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Sniper
D 1 GOBLIN TRAPSMITH IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Trapsmith
D 1 HOBGOBLIN IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Hobgoblin
D 2 KOBOLD BRUTE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Kobold_Brute
D 1 MIMIC IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Mimic

23 ENEMY - SPIRIT CARD

D 1 CRYPT KEEPER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Crypt_Keeper
D 2 DEATH KNIGHT IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Death_Knight
D 1 GATE KEEPER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Gate_Keeper
D 1 LESSER DEMON IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Lesser_Demon
D 2 NIGHTMARE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Nightmare_(Dungeon)
D 2 PHANTOM HOUND IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Phantom_Hound
D 2 RUNE DANCER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Rune_Dancer
D 1 SHADOW IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Shadow
D 2 SHADOW STALKER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Shadow_Stalker
D 1 SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Spirit_of_Vengeance
D 2 TINKER IMP IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Tinker_Imp
D 2 TOMB WARDEN IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Tomb_Warden
D 3 VAMPIRE BATS IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Vampire_Bats_(Dungeon)
D 1 VAMPIRE PRINCE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Vampire_Prince_(Dungeon)

4 EVENT CARD

D 1 FIRE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Fire
D 1 GREEN MIST IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Green_Mist
D 1 MAGIC MIRROR IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Magic_Mirror
D 1 SLIDING WALLS IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Sliding_Walls

4 FOLLOWER CARD

D 1 FAITHFUL HOUND IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Faithful_Hound
D 1 HOLY AVENGER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Holy_Avenger
D 1 MINER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Miner
D 1 WISE MAN IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Wise_Man

25 MAGIC OBJECT CARD

D 1 AEGIS TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Aegis
D 1 AMULET OF SPEED IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Amulet_of_Speed
D 1 ANOINTED ROBE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Anointed_Robe
D 1 BAG OF HOLDING TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Bag_of_Holding
D 1 BLOOD STONE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Blood_Stone
D 1 BOOK OF DIABLERIE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Book_of_Diablerie
D 1 BOOK OF LORE TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Book_of_Lore
D 1 CLOAK OF FEATHERS TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Cloak_of_Feathers
D 1 CLOCKWORK OWL TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Clockwork_Owl
D 1 CRYSTAL OF POWER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Crystal_of_Power
D 1 ELIXIR OF LIFE TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Elixir_of_Life
D 1 ELIXIR OF RAGE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Elixir_of_Rage_(Dungeon)
D 1 ELIXIR OF WRATH IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Elixir_of_Wrath_(Dungeon)
D 1 GAUNTLET OF MIGHT IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Gauntlet_of_Might
D 1 GOBLIN SLAYER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Goblin_Slayer
D 1 GOLD SEEKER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Gold_Seeker
D 1 ORB OF PROPHESY TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Orb_of_Prophesy
D 1 SCROLL OF EXILE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Scroll_of_Exile
D 1 SHIELD OF FAITH IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Shield_of_Faith
D 1 SOUL DRINKER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Soul_Drinker
D 1 SPELL RING IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Spell_Ring
D 1 TALISMAN TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Talisman
D 1 TALISMAN IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Talisman
D 1 TOTEM STAFF TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Totem_Staff
D 1 WAND OF DRAGONFIRE TREASURE CARD http://www.talismanwiki.com/Wand_of_Dragonfire

7 OBJECT CARD

D 1 CASKET IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Casket
D 1 CHEST IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Chest
D 1 THREE BAGS OF GOLD IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Three_Bags_of_Gold
D 3 TWO BAGS OF GOLD IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Two_Bags_of_Gold
D 1 WEIGHTED DICE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Weighted_Dice

6 PLACE CARD

D 3 RUNE GATE ADD TO ADV. DECK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Rune_Gate
D 1 RUNE GATE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Rune_Gate
D 1 SNAKE PIT IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Snake_Pit
D 1 TINKER FORGE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Tinker_Forge

4 STRANGER CARD

D 1 ARMOURSMITH IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Armoursmith
D 1 DUNGEON KEEPER IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Dungeon_Keeper
D 1 SISTER OF FATE IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Sister_of_Fate
D 1 WEAPONSMITH IGNORE CARD BACK http://www.talismanwiki.com/Weaponsmith
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2 years too late...?
 
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Ha, yeah. I am scrubbing through all of my Firefox bookmarks, and I (my OCD)
could not let the answer be incorrect and incomplete. So I had to fix it.
 
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