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Robert Martin
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It seems that this expansion adds so much, that trade with other players may not be quite as critical. What do people think about playing this with 2 players? Would it work better than playing Settlers with 2 players?
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We play this frequently as a two player game and, as you suggest, it does play much better than Settlers alone with the out-of-the-box rules.

The only minor change we make is that the robber only blocks your resource hex twice (we turn him on his side after the first blocked number rolls), then returns to the desert. We found that having the robber plus an unusual stretch of no sevens resulted in too many run away wins for the other player.

We also recently put together a two player variant which, for us, plays very well in C&K as well as Settlers alone. See the files section under the base game if you're interested.
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I played this two player for a year or so. First of all remember that the official rules have changed that the robber doesn't move until the barbarians have hit once (or somthing like that). You could also just both start off with a knight, instead.

The only other change I would make is that the game is won either by getting to 13 points OR by being 5 points ahead of your opponent. That will allow you to prematurely end the roughly 40% of the games that are simply no fun to play due to screwy dice rolls.

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I've now played three 2 player games of Cities and Knights and it appears to work really well as a 2 player game. The first two games, not so much because it was fairly obvious who was going to win early in the game. By the third game, we had realized how important that inital city placement is, and the game was tight all the way to the finish. The barbarians provide a real incentive to trade, especially when both players might lose a city.
 
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I would think better results would flow from playing a game actually designed for two players. Sour of me, I know.

This might actually have advantages over the more crowded 4 player game as their is much less chance of resource shutout...
 
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Philip Thomas wrote:
Sour of me, I know.


Indeed. Anyways, we've played the Catan card game countless times and were anxious to try out Cities & Knights. As it turns out, it works very well for two players, unlike Settlers.
 
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Grildensnork wrote:
We also recently put together a two player variant which, for us, plays very well in C&K as well as Settlers alone. See the files section under the base game if you're interested.


Hello Grildensnork,
I found your 2-player variant and my wife & I will give it a try the next time we play.

Do you change anything about the C&K additions? Like putting out Knights for the dummy player or upgrading his settlements to cities, etc.

Thanks,
--Matt
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