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Aric Leung
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Does anyone out there know of an online retailer that gives good deals on Games Workshop stuff? Thanks.
 
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Considering that GW avoids sales to retailers who work mainly online, good luck with that. A search on Google is probably in order. Their claim is that they are "protecting" the brick-and-mortar outlet. Considering that they have online sales on their site, I have trouble buying that.
 
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There are none. Only GW.
 
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Games Workshop basically shut down online discounts for their products a year or two ago. They have a lot of control over distribution and basically won't ship items to stores that sell at a discount online.

Still, you can get their stuff at 20% at places like www.thewarstore.com but you need to email them what you want rather than use a handy online cart system. Just look up what you want at GW's site and then email what you want to Neal at the warstore and he'll set you up.

Unfortunately 20% is as good as it gets. Stores normally only get a 35% discount on GW products, unlike most items which you get from distributors at 48% off the retail price.
 
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If you don't mind waiting a couple weeks for your order to arrive, there's a pretty good online store in Canada that sells GW minis, typically at a 20-30% discount.

Couple in the US-Canada exchange rate, and often times it's cheaper than 30% off the US retail price.

The biggest drawback is that shipping from Canada to the US can add an extra week on to your delivery time, through no fault of the store.

Great Canadian Miniatures
http://www.gc-minis.com/
 
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echoota wrote:
Games Workshop basically shut down online discounts for their products a year or two ago. They have a lot of control over distribution and basically won't ship items to stores that sell at a discount online.

Still, you can get their stuff at 20% at places like www.thewarstore.com but you need to email them what you want rather than use a handy online cart system. Just look up what you want at GW's site and then email what you want to Neal at the warstore and he'll set you up.

Unfortunately 20% is as good as it gets. Stores normally only get a 35% discount on GW products, unlike most items which you get from distributors at 48% off the retail price.


In fact, the GW discount is 45%, not 35%. Other games range from 44% to 49% depending upon the publisher and deal you have with your distributor. If a store buys GW from a distributor then they only get 35%. GW has a minimum direct order amount of $400 at wholesale (45%) and they pay the freight. It's important to note that all retailers must sign an agreement with GW that spells out such things as what can be given as a discount. Within the agreement is the clause that you cannot give a "customary" discount that regularly exceeds 10% and it restricts online retailing to GW.

Since the GW store never discounts and always charges shipping on smaller orders it is usually a better deal to buy from your FLGS. I recommend buying a full army or at least $200 minmum and cutting a pre-pay 20% discount deal with your FLGS.

Whether you like GW or not, this practice actually does support FLGS's. GW correctly views online deep-discounting as destructive to local retailers and without local retailers providing playing tables, tournaments and leagues there isn't a whole lot of motivation for people to play their games.

When GW instituted this policy about 3 or 4 years back my store had a rebound of GW sales and it added about $10K back to my bottom line the first year.

Here's some basics:

$100,000 worth of GW per annum = $45K gross profit
1500 SF space@$1500 per month
Additional costs per month @$1,000

$17K profit

Adding in 20% discount if the FLGS must compete with discounters leaves $8,000 after and entire year of sales. Most of that will be consumed by everything from unsold products to theft to unexpected expenses, etc., etc.

And that's just the GW department. If you had similar numbers from RPG's and then another multiple from "misc.", which would include everything from board games to dice to painting supplies, you could effectively run a $300,000 per year store and end up with under $20K in your own pocket after 52 weeks of 60 hours+ per week.

If any of you work for that amount per hour I'll start another store and hire you in a heartbeat... but you'll have to be willing to share a small apartment with the other 4 employees and buy your own damned Top Ramen!

 
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DWTripp wrote:

In fact, the GW discount is 45%, not 35%. Other games range from 44% to 49% depending upon the publisher and deal you have with your distributor. If a store buys GW from a distributor then they only get 35%.


Ah, a friend who had a store gave me the 35% discount, but when he moved away that dried up and so I stopped with the GW stuff, it's just too expensive to stay in unless you want to focus all of your hobby expenses on just that one game.

GW's strategy makes sense but unfortunately my mind siezes up and I become a socialist in regards to them. I make the solem vow to the world that if I ever become a billionare that I'll buy out all of the investors stocks of GW and transform it into a non-profit game company. All of the expansion plans will be scratched and the game company will be consolidated so that it can produce it's products at cost for a couple of decades. It won't be a business but a gaming institution and output it's products merely for the sake of them being out there, such as with Christo's "The Gates" in Central Park last year. It will be gaming art.

People are entitled and it's an inalienable right that people should take for granted cheap GW prices so that 14 year olds can afford, with their weekly allowance, multiple vast armies. Anything less and it's a insult to human diginity! robot
 
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I like the way you think, Neil.
 
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http://www.thewarstore.com/ the warstore still gives discounts i think between 25-30% off, but you have to order in an email or call in after you know what you want.send an email to them and they will send you their info and order info.

OT: gee i wonder why GW's profits are in the tank , raise prices,make it harder for your customers to get your product and ban internet sales.... it seems like such a solid buisness plan..
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=62600
 
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Thanks for the info guys.
 
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DWTripp wrote:
Since the GW store never discounts and always charges shipping on smaller orders


Actually...this myth needs to be dispelled.
Having lived near two GW B&M stores, people should know that GW has a four times a year event where they discount their stuff to insance prices. I managed to pick up a 40K starter kit (the box with marines/dark eldar the thick rulebook, terrain, a landspeeder and other junk) for less than half retail. $20 to be exact. I bought 3 of them at that price as well as two warhammer FB sets. During these events they also auction off army kits at 50-75% discounts quite often. I almost got a vast ork BattleFleetGothic army for 80% off retail.

They also will order blisters and bitz with no shipping charge, and occasionally they chuck a discount on that too.

Now here's the real kicker, two co-workers of mine at my previous job had worked for Games Workshop as managers. This thing is a real gravy train. After their training, they were given free reign in a bitz warehouse and allowed to take anything they could carry. In addition they were allowed to buy their bitz by the POUND, not by the part! At $.10 a pound, they had some mean armies.
 
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Actually...this myth needs to be dispelled.


Actually, I was referring to the mail order store. They do sometimes have mail order "sales" as well, but frankly it's not on the current hot line-up.

As for the B&M stores, I've never been in one but I've heard they have sale events from time to time. That ought to make it interesting for any nearby retailers. Hard to compete with that.
 
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Play Warmachine! Better prices, more fun, better company...laugh

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Bagherra wrote:
Having lived near two GW B&M stores, people should know that GW has a four times a year event where they discount their stuff to insance prices. I managed to pick up a 40K starter kit (the box with marines/dark eldar the thick rulebook, terrain, a landspeeder and other junk) for less than half retail. $20 to be exact. I bought 3 of them at that price as well as two warhammer FB sets. During these events they also auction off army kits at 50-75% discounts quite often. I almost got a vast ork BattleFleetGothic army for 80% off retail.

They also will order blisters and bitz with no shipping charge, and occasionally they chuck a discount on that too.


The big question is when, exactly, will the next sales be? I'd like to get in on some of that action.
 
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I just heard through the grapevine that GW is planning to close a number of stores due to declining profits. With the prices they charge it's hard to believe.
 
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sdownin wrote:
Bagherra wrote:
Having lived near two GW B&M stores, people should know that GW has a four times a year event where they discount their stuff to insance prices. I managed to pick up a 40K starter kit (the box with marines/dark eldar the thick rulebook, terrain, a landspeeder and other junk) for less than half retail. $20 to be exact. I bought 3 of them at that price as well as two warhammer FB sets. During these events they also auction off army kits at 50-75% discounts quite often. I almost got a vast ork BattleFleetGothic army for 80% off retail.

They also will order blisters and bitz with no shipping charge, and occasionally they chuck a discount on that too.


The big question is when, exactly, will the next sales be? I'd like to get in on some of that action.


We have a B&M store in Geneva, IL that's been open for over a year and I have never seen a sale like that cry

Luckly, there's eBay with a lot of old 40K players dumping their armies laugh
 
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