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Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.
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I would have gone with prolix, puerile, and provocative for the extra alliterative points.
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I would have gone with prolix, puerile, and provocative for the extra alliterative points.


But then I wouldn't be quoting the judge in the Plan B case.
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Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.


I am just amazed and amused that you didn't mixed in a few, precious expletives in describing Tripp's prose.



wait.

words go between the expletives?
 
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Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.


That Judge is a total idiot. As are all the people who have been pushing for this ruling.

Insisting that young girls to have access to potentially dangerous drugs which screw with their hormonal cycles without even having to talk to a medical professional even once to gain an understanding of what they are doing is hardly a victory for women.

I have used plan B once when I had a condom failure. While I considered the risks worth taking under the circumstances after consulting with medical professionals, I was well educated on what they were and those risks were not trivial.

The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.



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What about young nieces who ruin the linings of their stomachs by taking too many aspirin? Or who destroy their livers with Tylenol™? I feel your concern, Lynette, but if your teenage nieces become mature enough to have a condom failure, I like to think that they'll become mature enough to read the warnings on any OTC birth control they might choose.
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Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.


That Judge is a total idiot. As are all the people who have been pushing for this ruling.

Insisting that young girls to have access to potentially dangerous drugs which screw with their hormonal cycles without even having to talk to a medical professional even once to gain an understanding of what they are doing is hardly a victory for women.

I have used plan B once when I had a condom failure. While I considered the risks worth taking under the circumstances after consulting with medical professionals, I was well educated on what they were and those risks were not trivial.

The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.





Yes, nausea or a later next cycle. How terrible.


Way to minimize it. But I suppose the long-term health risks of millions of individuals means nothing when matched up with the liberty to make uninformed health choices.
 
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I was hoping we could stigmatise the kids -- through fear of wrathful parents, doctors, and pastors -- into having a shotgun wedding with a date rapist.
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The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.



Then ask for pharmacists to tell about side effects, just like you can ask them about every other drug.

I for one do not understand why it makes any sense to require a doctor's consent to be able to obtain anything you can get at a pharmacy. Yes, misuse can kill you, but so can drinking bleach.
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The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.



Then ask for pharmacists to tell about side effects, just like you can ask them about every other drug.

I for one do not understand why it makes any sense to require a doctor's consent to be able to obtain anything you can get at a pharmacy. Yes, misuse can kill you, but so can drinking bleach.


Now if we can only create a culture where kids feel peer-pressured into drinking bleach before they are ready...
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Do you honestly think there's such a culture around use of the morning after pill?
 
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Meerkat wrote:
MisterCranky wrote:
Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.


That Judge is a total idiot. As are all the people who have been pushing for this ruling.

Insisting that young girls to have access to potentially dangerous drugs which screw with their hormonal cycles without even having to talk to a medical professional even once to gain an understanding of what they are doing is hardly a victory for women.

I have used plan B once when I had a condom failure. While I considered the risks worth taking under the circumstances after consulting with medical professionals, I was well educated on what they were and those risks were not trivial.

The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.

There has never, ever been a serious side effect (let alone death) linked to emergency contraception.
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MisterCranky wrote:
Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.


That Judge is a total idiot. As are all the people who have been pushing for this ruling.

Insisting that young girls to have access to potentially dangerous drugs which screw with their hormonal cycles without even having to talk to a medical professional even once to gain an understanding of what they are doing is hardly a victory for women.

I have used plan B once when I had a condom failure. While I considered the risks worth taking under the circumstances after consulting with medical professionals, I was well educated on what they were and those risks were not trivial.

The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.





Yes, nausea or a later next cycle. How terrible.


Way to minimize it. But I suppose the long-term health risks of millions of individuals means nothing when matched up with the liberty to make uninformed health choices.


Considering how free we are with our corn subsidies and our penchant for ultra-fatty foods. I don't think long term effects of ingesting things really do matter that much in this country.
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Meerkat wrote:
While I considered the risks worth taking under the circumstances after consulting with medical professionals, I was well educated on what they were and those risks were not trivial.


Sigh...


Please explain the risk of emergency contraception.
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Do you honestly think there's such a culture around use of the morning after pill?


I think there is around sex. How shamed do kids feel if they're virgins? How much pressure are they under to "keep up"? So much of sex ed is about how it works and how to be safe about it, but none of it is about emotional attachment. Kids are physically ready far before they are emotionally ready, and pop culture just exacerbates the issue.
 
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MisterCranky wrote:
Oh, did you think I was going to link to the article about today's federal ruling with respect to the morning-after pill's availability over the counter? Hell no, these are just the words I use to describe Tripp's threads.


That Judge is a total idiot. As are all the people who have been pushing for this ruling.

Insisting that young girls to have access to potentially dangerous drugs which screw with their hormonal cycles without even having to talk to a medical professional even once to gain an understanding of what they are doing is hardly a victory for women.

I have used plan B once when I had a condom failure. While I considered the risks worth taking under the circumstances after consulting with medical professionals, I was well educated on what they were and those risks were not trivial.

The idea that my young teenager nieces could just go get this drug and take it several times a year without knowing the risks they are taking makes my head hurt.



Unknown risks as opposed to known risks involved in pregnancies?
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Do you honestly think there's such a culture around use of the morning after pill?


I think there is around sex.

Ah, so you were equating sex with drinking bleach.
 
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Not sure how--I use a measuring cup and I never mix it with ammonia.
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tscook wrote:
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Do you honestly think there's such a culture around use of the morning after pill?


I think there is around sex. How shamed do kids feel if they're virgins? How much pressure are they under to "keep up"? So much of sex ed is about how it works and how to be safe about it, but none of it is about emotional attachment. Kids are physically ready far before they are emotionally ready, and pop culture just exacerbates the issue.


Sex doesn't always mean emotional involvement, not even most of the time.


Thank you for being my visual aid.
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sbszine wrote:
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Do you honestly think there's such a culture around use of the morning after pill?


I think there is around sex.

Ah, so you were equating sex with drinking bleach.


I'm saying that if kids were peer-pressuring each other into drinking bleach instead of having sex before they're ready, it would solve a lot of problems.

Plus there'd be a lot less bad drivers. So... BONUS!
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Is there a pill I can take to cure myself of the after-effects of Tripp's posts?
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