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I'm not a basketball follower, but the local news is full of the injury suffered by Kobe Bryant in tonight's game.

If it is a ruptured Achilles, he's done for the season and postseason.

How will the Lakers make it into the playoffs? And how will they do if they do make it?

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Will he finally become the leader the Lakers had hoped he would be?
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A ruptured achilles takes 10-12 months to recover from. If that indeed is the injury we're looking at the latter part of next season before he returns.
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In all likelihood, if it's a torn Achilles, his career is done. He'll miss most, if not all, of next season. So what are we looking at - 2015 at the age of 36? Game Over.


Not to mention his contract with the Lakers is only through next season. If he spends most or all of next season recovering from injury, what team out there, including the Lakers, is going to sign him to the money he's going to want, or more importantly, the money his agent is going to insist on?

From a business perspective, the Lakers are screwed. I think theright thing to do for the franchise would have been to trade Kobe away a couple seasons ago when he had value that could have generated building blocks for the future through the draft. Now what do the Lakers have? They're going to pay Kobe 32 Million dollars for what? Then again, I still feel that Kobe's issues are the least of the Laker's concerns with D'Antoni at the helm.
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The Lakers have not used their amnesty yet. They could use it on Kobe. They would have to release him and still pay him but he would not count against the cap.
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As a Magic fan, I laugh at the notion of Howard being a leader. The current player wearing #12 for the Magic has more leadership in this lost season that Howard ever did.

Also, even though I highly dislike Kobe as a person and respect him as a basketball player and also hate the Lakers, I still feel bad for him and the team's fans. Well, other than the many bandwagon fans. I don't feel bad for them.
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I'm proud of what the Lakers accomplished while they were in Minneapolis.
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Only the most callous of fans would celebrate this situation. However you feel about his ego, his personal judgment, or the arrogance of much of his public persona, Kobe is a first-ballot Hall of Famer. The man wins games, series, and titles. He will be mentioned forever among the all-time Laker greats, and may well be the greatest player of his generation.

Not that it makes me like him any better. I'm a Portlander. Hating the Lakers is in my DNA. But I still would much rather see him go out on his own terms than have his career end like this.
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Only the most callous of fans would celebrate this situation. However you feel about his ego, his personal judgment, or the arrogance of much of his public persona...

What about the rapey stuff?
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Not a Laker fan at all or a Kobe fan but it's a damn shame about Kobe, though.

I believe he will be back. That is who he is. His drive and determination will not let him end his career like this.

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There is 0 chance this will end his career. He is too driven and competitive to let his career end this way.

Business-wise, it would be a good idea for the Lakers to amnesty his contract and save about $60 million in luxury tax, but public relations-wise, that would be a disaster.

I think the Lakers will make the playoffs, and lose to OKC in 5. Keep D12, Pau, and Nash together for one more run, banking on Kobe to be back after the All-Star break next season and let's see what can happen.

But please, for the love of the Lakers, let Pau play out of the post. No more of this "twenty-feet-from-the-basket" bullshit from D'Antoni.

And if that fails, fire D'Antoni and hire 1984 Pat Riley and dust off 1980 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and 1987 James Worthy.
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Leezer wrote:
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Only the most callous of fans would celebrate this situation. However you feel about his ego, his personal judgment, or the arrogance of much of his public persona...

What about the rapey stuff?


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Although I'm still primarily a Spurs fan, Kobe's been my favorite player since the early part of his rookie season. I just saw something in his face/game whenever he came off the bench. It's been a fun ride. Big disappointment that he won't get that final shot after the year he had, but he's fortunate to have been able to have so many opportunities up until now.

That said, Kobe or no Kobe, the Lakers chances ended when OKC took over the top seed from SAS.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I don't think it matters who makes the playoffs. It's hard to imagine anyone beating the Heat this year.
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There goes the Lakers chance of not being swept.

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As much as I hate to admit it, I don't think it matters who makes the playoffs. It's hard to imagine anyone beating the Heat this year.
The Heat are good, but OKC and the Spurs can do it. With the way Duncan has been playing this year, they can not be counted out.
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I couldn't care less about the Lakers - I still hope they'll loose the final game and Utah will get its (rightful) place in the playoffs.

However ...

1. Kobe will be back - as said above he is too competitive to finish his career. At the age of 36 he should be still good for 10-15 pts/game. It will happen, unless his injury turns out more serious than expected.

2. Lakers face a huge dilemma, what to do with his contract. I guess they will contact Kobe and talk about lowering his contract (they can use the amnesty clause and then resign him). But if he won't agree, they won't do anything ... and will be screwed for the next 2-3 years

3. They should fire D'Antoni as soon as they play their final game this season.

4. They should amnesty Nash (won't happen, but it should happen). He was signed solely to get the championship, and it won't happen without Kobe and with this roster.

5. They should trade Gasol for a young, upcoming player, future star.
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The Lakers are screwed and the Magic got the best out of the Dwight trade. What's funny is everyone thought that them keeping Gasol was a great move, but now they've got all their money tied in 3 players who are either broken or old (or both.)

Even if they make the playoffs, they are pretty much done in the first round. Kobe won them a ton of games this year, despite his normal ballhogging style. Yes, they just beat the beat up and not really caring too much at this moment Spurs, but the Playoffs are a different thing.

Dwight has played well right now, but he still isn't the same as he was before and good teams know how to defend him. He's not going to be throwing passes to the best 3 point shooters in the league (I think I would say that would Lebron now, he's surrounded by so many good shooters it's insane.)

I know this is a rambling post, but I can't help to ramble in delight when thinking about the demise of the Lakers.
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That said, Kobe or no Kobe, the Lakers chances ended when OKC took over the top seed from SAS.

Okay, I did *not* foresee them overtaking the Rockets! That #7 seed is intriguing and now I'm really missing Kobe.
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Dave wrote:
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That said, Kobe or no Kobe, the Lakers chances ended when OKC took over the top seed from SAS.

Okay, I did *not* foresee them overtaking the Rockets! That #7 seed is intriguing and now I'm really missing Kobe.
That's because the Rockets are pretty bad.
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Dave wrote:
Dave wrote:
That said, Kobe or no Kobe, the Lakers chances ended when OKC took over the top seed from SAS.

Okay, I did *not* foresee them overtaking the Rockets! That #7 seed is intriguing and now I'm really missing Kobe.
That's because the Rockets are pretty bad.


They are terribly defensive right now, but they have a great future. They have a lot of good young players and plenty of cap room for the next 2 years. Making the playoffs in a tough conference is a good step in the right direction.
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Making the playoffs in a tough conference is a good step in the right direction.


I guess I have never been impressed with reaching the playoffs as a goal in the NBA or NHL. They let in more than half the league in the NBA, and consistently teams that can't manage to even win half their games make the playoffs.

I'm much more impressed with playoff teams in the NFL and MLB particularly. You have to have a damn good team to make the playoffs in MLB.
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You have to have a damn good team to make the playoffs in MLB.

Baseball is too random; keeping the playoff draw small rewards regular season success.
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frumpish wrote:
I'm much more impressed with playoff teams in the NFL and MLB particularly. You have to have a damn good team to make the playoffs in MLB.


There have been some truly mediocre teams who made it into the MLB postseason by winning a division where the other teams were worse. Some have even gone on to make, and win, the World Series. As have some teams who didn't even win their divisions.

But up until 1969 only one team in each league made the postseason unless there had to be a one-game or three-game playoff for a league championship. And winning the pennant was for many fans an even bigger deal than winning the World Series. There were still some pretty mediocre pennant winners.
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