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The C&C Ancients board doesn't lay very flat out of the box and for those of you that either do not own a sheet of plexiglass or just don't care to use one, you should know that the boards in the Memoir and Battle Cry series are compatible. If you don't own either of those games, a better and cheaper alternative is to purchase the Memoir 44 Winter/Desert board which is sold seperately.

Although the hexes are slightly smaller in size and do not contain the letter/number reference, the Memoir 44 Desert Board does work very well with C&C Ancients. Of course you could always use the regular Memoir 44 or Battle Cry board, but the Desert Board is a great match for this game.

The terrain pieces fit perfectly on the Desert Board despite the hexes being smaller in size, and the color match is close. More importantly, the board lays flat.

 
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I have heard (haven't seen) that the flank dividing lines are in different locations - wouldn't that affect things?
 
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The center section on the C&C:A is 1/2 hex narrower on each side (the flanks are wider). I plan to use a light colored pencil to mark my M'44 board so I can use it with both games.


*edited for asthetics
 
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Thanks for noticing the flank lines. I haven't had a chance to play the game yet (took 3 days just to get all the stickers on) and I was just counting hexes. The creases on the Memoir 44 board is almost on the right spot, but not quite. Apart from marking the board the only other alternative I can see is to place temporary markers at the edges of the board to mark the correct location of the flank line and use a ruler during play if necessary. Ultimately, I may just end up buying plexliglass. Maybe GMT will add a deluxe board to their P500 list.
 
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I gently did a reverse fold on my board and it lies perfectly flat.

Another suggestion I use frequently. Use a very small piece of blue painter's tape to hold down the problem edges. I have used it on other boards with great success. Just be careful to keep it off raw edges and to peel it off gently.
 
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Would a Memoir 44 Desert board fit into the C&C Ancients box?
 
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No, it doesn't fit..*sigh*
 
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Rich wrote:
Although the hexes are slightly smaller in size and do not contain the letter/number reference, the Memoir 44 Desert Board does work very well with C&C Ancients.


I don't have my copy yet, but are the starting positions for the units in the various scenarios referenced by letter/number? Or with an illustration (as they are in Memoir and BattleCry)?
 
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BradyLS wrote:

I don't have my copy yet, but are the starting positions for the units in the various scenarios referenced by letter/number? Or with an illustration (as they are in Memoir and BattleCry)?


All of the scenarios which came with the game (including P500 bonus scenarios) provide reference illustrations, similar to M'44 and BC. It would be a complete pain in the butt to specify terrain tile placement without a picture.

So, the reference numbers... there are reference numbers? I didn't even notice them. I'd say they have no relevance at this point in time unless you feel compelled to log your plays. Did I miss reference numbers on the cards as well, I wonder?
 
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I thought of this. The problem will be that the terrain tiles in Ancients are going to be too big for the hexes on a Mem44 map. You could use the Mem44 terrain of course, but are there sufficient types to make the cross over?

And no the desert map does not fit in the Ancients box - I tried.
 
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I knew the Memoir hexes were 2mm smaller than Battle Cry. And that appears to be the case here. So if that bothers you, use the Battle Cry map. If that bothers you put pexiglass over the Ancients map.

You know, if all Richard Borgs recent games had been published by Eagles Games, the maps would be 36" X 48" mounted maps with 3.5" hexes and all the plastic minis we could hope for. It would be good for us gamers and Eagle's wouldn't have gotten a reputation for inadequately playtested games.
 
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Ouch...
 
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Quote:
Maybe GMT will add a deluxe board to their P500 list.


Actually, the board included IS a GMT deluxe board.
 
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Correct-- it is not as thick as some game boards but is not regular map stock either.

I also did the "reverse fold" and it lays flat just fine.


By the way, here's a terrain tip if you want things to be even more visual.

You have many more terrain tiles in the game than you will ever need for a given scenario. You can use the "extras" for some 3-D effect.

Leave river tiles as is. Ditto camps. Possibly ditto "rough."

For woods tiles, add one additional tile below them (out of sight, it just makes them taller)

For hills, add 2 (or 3 if you like) additional tiles, to make them taller still.

For the "impassable hills" scenario, add even more tiles-- certainly more than the "normal" hills.
 
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kduke wrote:
By the way, here's a terrain tip if you want things to be even more visual.

You have many more terrain tiles in the game than you will ever need for a given scenario. You can use the "extras" for some 3-D effect.

Leave river tiles as is. Ditto camps. Possibly ditto "rough." For woods tiles, add one additional tile below them (out of sight, it just makes them taller). For hills, add 2 (or 3 if you like) additional tiles, to make them taller still. For the "impassable hills" scenario, add even more tiles-- certainly more than the "normal" hills.


Or use Heroscape tiles.
 
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When Battle Cry came out I bought a couple 8x10 pieces of 2mm Craft foam in tan and green and cut them into the correct size hexes as "Hill Pads." I think one of my BC photos show them in use.

I never wrote any rules for it but one can build hills of different heights that way and even Wooded Hills or Rough Hills.

THen M'44 came out. M'44 hexes are 2mm smaller so I laboriously trimmed 20 or 30 Hill Pads by 2mm.



But I never thought of using the extra tiles.

Duh, spend spend spend...
 
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Why not make a amphibious landing with Ancients a la 'Troj'
 
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