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Ralph H. Anderson
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OK. I got the game, I spent three hours putting on all the stickers and put them all into one large bag. Next day, we played our first game and I think I spent 20 minutes looking for the ding-danged Roman light bow infantry.

To mimimize this problem in the future I decided to bag pieces in small ziplock bags. Here is the grouping I came up with that seems to work well. It makes it easy to find each type of unit and as they are removed from the game easy to put back in bags. I use four ziplock bags for each side. I include a small card with the units and their totals listed in each bag. And yes, this should be cross-posted to the OCD geeklist . . .

Here is the mix I decided on that works for me. The best part is that each type is a diffent color AND they are in logical groupings. Makes set-up a breeze.

ROME
Bag 1
Victory Markers
Leaders
War Machines
Elephants
Heavy Chariots
Light Bow Infantry
Light Sling Infantry

Bag 2 - (I may need to go to a bigger bag for this one as at present they barely all fit)
Light Cavalry
Medium Cavalry
Heavy Cavalry

Bag 3
Light Infantry
Medium Infantry
Heavy Infantry

Bag 4
Warrior Infantry
Ausilia Infantry

Carthage
Bag 1
Victory Markers
Leaders
Elephants
Heavy Chariots
Light Bow Infantry
Light Sling Infantry

Bag 2
Light Cavalry
Medium Cavalry
Heavy Cavalry

Bag 3
Light Infantry
Medium Infantry
Heavy Infantry

Bag 4
Warrior Infantry
Ausilia Infantry

Hope this helps!
 
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I did basically the same thing but broke it down even further than you did. Most small block units get their own bags... Medium block units (the Cavalry) end up in two bags per side but I'm thinking about going to three bags. The big blocks, leaders and victory banners all go one bag per side.

Bagging the blocks (or buying a sorting box of some kind) is a must for this game if you want to get set up and playing in a reasonable amount of time.

Great game, by the way...

-- Kimbo
 
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Philippe Sergerie
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I realized, before playing my first game, that the sheer number of blocks and block type would cause serious delays when I would set up a scenario.

I basically put no more than 1 size of blocks per bag, combining different types of size: ex1: auxilia, light cavalry, elephants.
 
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Alan Ferrency
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I started by bagging everything, almost every unit had its own small bag.
After setting up and tearing down one game, I decided this would never fly.

I stopped at a local department store and picked up 2 Plano 4-24 section tackle boxes, and sorted the pieces into those. They fit into the game box with enough space around the sides for the cards and terrain pieces (vertically). The map and papers go underneath. The boxes are taller than the box, but the lid holds everything together just fine.
 
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My bagging system...

Cards, dice, and victory tokens: each got their own baggie.

Roman and Carthage baggie for each of the following:
Leaders, Chariots, and Elephants as a group
All Cavalry
All Heavy Infantry/War Machines
All Medium Infantry
All Light Infantry
 
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Chris Dayley
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Every type of Roman and Carthage unit has its own bag. Roman Light Infrantry 1 bag, etc...

Except Elephants, Chariots and Leaders. They all go in one bag. But still separated by Roman and Carthage.

Lots of bags. Very easy to find the unit you need for set up.
 
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Kevin Duke
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I also went with the "one bag per each unit" system, using different size bags to accommodate larger groups or blocks.

What I think will really help is that I found some round colored stickers at WalMart (in the school supplies section) that come in red, blue, green, and yellow.

I put a colored sticker on each bag to match the contents, and put the stickers on the right side of the bag for romans (Right-Roman) and the left side for Carthage. So with a quick look you can see color and side- (even faster than seeing the color of blocks or what's on the sticker.

I'll go with this for awhile and see-- There are 5 classes of green (but one is cavalry, so that's easy). If it helps, I'll put a 2 letter abbreviation on the sticker for unit type.
Lt
Ax
Bw
SL

The only other possible label area would be blue infantry

Wa
Md

Right now I have a larger bag in there with all the Romans in it-- so in a heartbeat one player can take that bag and the other player the rest of the box and start pulling stuff out.

Any ideas to improve on this?
 
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Mark Crocker
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Bagging is pretty much mandatory.
 
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I started out with ziploc bags, but I found a couple plastic containers in the craft section (next to the beads) at my local Wal-Mart that I think work even better. They are about 5" x 7" and 1-3/4" deep. They are divided into seven compartments (basically into eighths of the whole, but one compartment is double-wide). They fit easily in the box, leaving room around the sides for the dice, cards and terrain.

This is how I organized my blocks:

Roman Box
1-Medium Infantry
2-Medium Cavalry, Warrior Infantry
3-Heavy Cavalry, Heavy Infantry
4-Light Infantry
5-Chariots, Elephants, Leaders, War Machines, Victory Banners*
6-Light Cavalry, Light Bows, Light Slings
7-Auxilia Infantry

Carthaginian Box
1-Medium Cavalry, Medium Infantry
2-Warrior Infantry, Light Bows, Light Slings
3-Heavy Cavalry, Heavy Infantry
4-Light Infantry
5-Chariots, Elephants, Leaders, Victory Banners*
6-Light Cavalry
7-Auxilia Infantry

*These are in the double-wide compartment.
 
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Mike Brown
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Plastic containers at Wally-World, check back in the fishing/tackle box section. All kinds of storage containers, lots to choose from. Most of them have dividers you can move around in them. I usually grab some everytime I get a new game. Usually priced around $3-5
 
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I bag my units per type, mixing Carthaginians and Romans.
For an example, I have a Light Cavalry baggie : you immediatly find the Romand LC (or Carthaginian), because of the distinctive colour of the blocks.
If one can go over the psychological restrain about mixing enemies in the same bag - what can they do when you close the box and they are left to speak together in the dark ? - this increases the time of unit selection.
 
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Jody Ludwick
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I'll throw in my 2 cents:

5 Glad-Lock Zipper Freezer (quart size) Bags, for easy viewing.

I've combined both Roman and Carthaginians Units in each bag

#1 Leaders, VB's, Elephants, Chariots, and War machines
#2 Cavalry
#3 Medium / Heavy Infantry
#4 Warrior & Auxilia Infantry (white border)
#5 Light Infantry
 
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Maksim Smelchak
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Hi Guys,

My friend, Dick, bought a tackle box type storage unit that fits neatly into his box... contains everything and he even labelled it in true "Geek" fashion... only cost him $2.00 as well!

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
 
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I use the same method as Robin. It is easier to tell the difference between Romans and Carthaginians than it is to tell the difference between Light Infantry and Slingers. Still leaves a lot of baggies, but if you do set-up (and break-down) cooperatively, it goes quickly.

I used the small baggies that come in other GMT games for banners, dice, and the unit types with only 6 total blocks. Sandwich size baggies for the rest.

I will probably put stickers on the bags to identify the unit type, particularly for the light foot units, but haven't felt the need yet. The bag of Elephants or Leaders is pretty obvious without one.

I have also found that the board, when folded in the box, leaves a margin wide enough for the cards and terrain tiles to stand up on one edge. With all of the unit baggies put on top of the board, they tend to stay in place. Rules and such rest on top.
 
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