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Froggy McFrogface
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Can the powers look through the discard pile? Some events allow you to search the discard pile and retrieve a card, but can the players look through the discard pile at any time?
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Yes, they can.

EDIT: Looking at the rulebook I see this is not stated anywhere, but a general rule in CDGs is that neither players know the draw pile(s), a player only knows cards in his hand (but not opponent's) and both players have knowledge of the discard, i.e. they may search through it at any time.
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Yes, I remember reading that Twilight Struggle is not a memory game ;-)
So, all discarded and removed cards are free to inspect at all times.
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Yes, always, at any time for any reason.
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This raises an ethical issue: how much time is acceptable to be spent searching the discard pile? Do the rules state a suggested time limit per turn?
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DiploGuy wrote:
This raises an ethical issue: how much time is acceptable to be spent searching the discard pile? Do the rules state a suggested time limit per turn?


It's the same amount of time that contestant can use to answer the question in "Who wants to be a millionaire". Even though it's not explicitly expressed, whatever amount of time is reasonable is available.

I personally do get annoyed by slow players, because many times, they do tend to overthink.

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killy9999 wrote:
Yes, they can.

EDIT: Looking at the rulebook I see this is not stated anywhere, but a general rule in CDGs is that neither players know the draw pile(s), a player only knows cards in his hand (but not opponent's) and both players have knowledge of the discard, i.e. they may search through it at any time.


It's mentioned in the official FAQS:

Twilight Struggle FAQ 4.2 wrote:
Q. Is a player permitted to examine the cards in the discard pile?

A. A player may do so at any time.

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The FAQ should probably read: in Mid War, if you want to let your opponent know you have SALT Negotiations, you may look through the discard pile.

In Late War, if you want to let them know you have Star Wars, you may look through the discard pile.
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I sometimes look through the discard pile to check if a particular scoring card is out, or if a particular event that I'm trying to avoid has been played.
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BockBockChicken wrote:
I sometimes look through the discard pile to check if a particular scoring card is out, or if a particular event that I'm trying to avoid has been played.


Yes, tracking the scoring cards is very important. In fact, I believe that is how this question came up for us.
 
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