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Hi, everyone.

Tomorrow begins the two week countdown to our Kickstarter launch on May 1, so I thought I would provide a few more bits of information that you may not have heard about yet.


Winner: Game Design Competition 2007 (Games Club of Maryland)

In 2007, Canterbury won an exciting game design competition at Game Days in Maryland. It was a very fun weekend and we received great feedback from all involved. The game has evolved quite a bit since then, but we were inspired by the positive reaction to the game at the show.


Bilingual Edition: English & German

Canterbury is a game that we hope will appeal to players throughout the world. The board and most of the components are language-independent, and for those components that do feature text, we will be printing them double-sided in English and German. There will also be two rulebooks included in the game (one in English, one in German).


Reduced Shipping to most of Europe

As an added bonus to our international customers, we have provided special packages that include very affordable shipping to Canada and many parts of Europe. Customers from the listed countries do not have to pay any extra shipping for the following packages:

SAXON ENVOY & SAXON AMBASSADOR: Free shipping to Great Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Austria, Denmark, Liechtenstein, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Monaco and Slovenia
These packages are $10 more expensive than other packages, so patrons from these countries only pay that much more than those in the US.

SAXON EMISSARY & SAXON DELEGATE: Free shipping to Canada, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary
These packages are $20 more expensive than other packages, so patrons from these countries only pay that much more than those in the US.


That's all for now. We'll continue to release new information as we make our way closer to the big day!

Thanks,

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Canterbury is a family game...


Noooooooooooooooooooo.... cry
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d0gb0t wrote:
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Canterbury is a family game...


Noooooooooooooooooooo.... cry


Rest assured, Ingo. There is plenty of gamer strategy and complexity in there!
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Andrew Parks wrote:
d0gb0t wrote:
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Canterbury is a family game...


Noooooooooooooooooooo.... cry


Rest assured, Ingo. There is plenty of gamer strategy and complexity in there!


Hopefully! I'll take you up on that! goo
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Perhaps the term "family game" is misleading, so I appreciate the heads up. To me, games like Agricola, Puerto Rico, and Kingdom Builder are "family games", but I can see where the term might imply something a lot simpler. I would put Canterbury in the same complexity category as those games.

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Andrew Parks wrote:
I would put Canterbury in the same complexity category as those games.


What luck!
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$20 for shipping to Canada is not unreasonable. However $10 more to ship to Canada vs. UK, Czech Republic etc... is confusing. Do you have a European distribution deal which makes shipping cheap to parts of Europe?

When I hear family game I think of SdJ type games, Ticket to Ride, Carc, Thurn and Taxis etc...

It sounds like this game is heavier than that.
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Hi, Jon.

Our printer will be Ludo Fact in Germany, and they will be directly shipping the Kickstarter copies to our customers in Europe. This is what allows us the reduced shipping rates to the countries listed above.

The normal cost for shipping a single copy to Europe would be around the $50 mark, so we were relieved that Ludo Fact offers this shipping service.

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Any chance the game will be ready by Essen (with option of pickup)?
 
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What about shipping to Latvia - if shipped from Germany same $20 should be OK? Essen pick up will also do.
 
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onetonmee wrote:
Any chance the game will be ready by Essen (with option of pickup)?


Hi, Kareem.

Our goal is to have the game shipped out to Kickstarter supporters by early October. If we do well enough, we would go to Essen and perhaps we can offer an Essen pickup as an option. But that will depend on how well the Kickstarter goes.

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zkBoy wrote:
What about shipping to Latvia - if shipped from Germany same $20 should be OK? Essen pick up will also do.


Hi, Taras.

Unfortunately, Latvia is just outside the zone that will allow these shipping prices. However, as I mentioned above, if the Kickstarter does well, there is a possibility that we will add an Essen pickup option.

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It's always a bit of a bummer being from the southern hemisphere of this fair planet, shipping wise.
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Andrew Parks wrote:
onetonmee wrote:
Any chance the game will be ready by Essen (with option of pickup)?


Hi, Kareem.

Our goal is to have the game shipped out to Kickstarter supporters by early October. If we do well enough, we would go to Essen and perhaps we can offer an Essen pickup as an option. But that will depend on how well the Kickstarter goes.

Andrew


Lets hope you do well then!
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Can we please get multi copy packs for Australia etc? It cuts down the per copy shipping cost.

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The brief description of Canterbury tells me I will like it. Resource availability based on physical location on a map is all I need to hear. Actually, "map" is probably enough to make me buy it even if it isn't "heavy" enough for my usual tastes. [And for those who look, I do own many non-map and light games. I'll try many things a few times but only play Roads & Boats and its ilk repeatedly.

I have misapprehensions about game weight as seen by the designer, given his comment: "To me, games like Agricola, Puerto Rico, and Kingdom Builder are 'family games', but I can see where the term might imply something a lot simpler. I would put Canterbury in the same complexity category as those games." [! ?]

I personally do not view Agricola, Puerto Rico, and Kingdom Builder as having similar degrees of complexity. Neither do BGGer's as a group. The games' respective weights are 3.6, 3.3, and 2.1. Kingdom Builder is pretty close to a gateway game. So where does Canterbury really fit in this spectrum? I would like it to be at or above the 'Gric but realize that might not be a widely shared sentiment.

Hopefully we will see a full set of rules soon and be able to judge for ourselves. [Need any proofreaders?]

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thepackrat wrote:
Can we please get multi copy packs for Australia etc? It cuts down the per copy shipping cost.

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Yes, there is already one package called "Saxon Army" which gives you 2 of everything in the basic package. The base amount for this package is $10 cheaper than purchasing two copies separately, and the international shipping cost is only $10 more than for just getting one copy, so it's really like getting the second copy for no extra shipping cost. Definitely the way to go if you have a friend who lives nearby!

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bankrupt wrote:
I personally do not view Agricola, Puerto Rico, and Kingdom Builder as having similar degrees of complexity. Neither do BGGer's as a group. The games' respective weights are 3.6, 3.3, and 2.1. Kingdom Builder is pretty close to a gateway game. So where does Canterbury really fit in this spectrum? I would like it to be at or above the 'Gric but realize that might not be a widely shared sentiment.

Hopefully we will see a full set of rules soon and be able to judge for ourselves. [Need any proofreaders?]

Rick


Hi, Rick.

Canterbury is a medium weight game that is somewhere between Puerto Rico and Agricola in overall weight (perhaps a 3.4?)

Yes, the English rulebook will be posted before the Kickstarter begins, and hopefully the German version shortly thereafter. Regarding proofreading, one of the advantages to posting the rulebook during the Kickstarter is that we will be happy to make changes based on feedback from readers during the Kickstarter. That is one of the advantages of BGG, after all!

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Thanks Andrew. I will certainly read and comment on the rules.
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Andrew Parks wrote:
thepackrat wrote:
Can we please get multi copy packs for Australia etc? It cuts down the per copy shipping cost.

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Yes, there is already one package called "Saxon Army" which gives you 2 of everything in the basic package. The base amount for this package is $10 cheaper than purchasing two copies separately, and the international shipping cost is only $10 more than for just getting one copy, so it's really like getting the second copy for no extra shipping cost. Definitely the way to go if you have a friend who lives nearby!

Andrew


We've sometimes been organising even larger groups. Does it make any sense to offer even those, or do we fall over one of the postage cliffs?

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Hi, Bruce.

I will have to investigate further. We do have one package that allows 4 copies, but that is only for brick & mortar stores in the US at the moment.

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Andrew Parks wrote:
Hi, Jon.

Our printer will be Ludo Fact in Germany, and they will be directly shipping the Kickstarter copies to our customers in Europe. This is what allows us the reduced shipping rates to the countries listed above.

The normal cost for shipping a single copy to Europe would be around the $50 mark, so we were relieved that Ludo Fact offers this shipping service.

Thanks,

Andrew
Cool that it will be done by a good producer to =P ;D

Also more games should be made in Europe. Especially the English editions. Damnit. ;D
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