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Michael Ink
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I just traded for Battle Beyond Space. Can anyone tell me how these two short tactical space battle games compare?

 
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Star Borders is not tactical, it's operational/strategic - you fight over star systems.
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Another significant difference: SB:H is 2-player, while BBS is apparently strictly 3-4 player (I've not played BBS; I'm just looking at its info).

SB:H has unit stats/info printed on the counters while BBS seems to be purely miniatures. Personally I like having the info right there on the pieces.
 
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So, by operational is this game more like a simplied shorter 2 player Cosmic Encounters?
 
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Inkwan wrote:
So, by operational is this game more like a simplied shorter 2 player Cosmic Encounters?

I would say that Cosmic Encounter is more wacky/Ameritrash which doesn't really purport to simulate a space war; SB:H is a bit more of a light wargame which at least loosely gives a feel of a space war. I.e. you're making decisions about moving different types of ships with various attack/defense/movement ratings with special abilities like repair/flagship/planetary assault around on a map, instead of being directed to move generic tokens to a random system.

PS: Why not simply download the rules from VPG's website and have a look? You'll get a quick feel for what it's like.
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I will not bother to download the rules first because I think I am sold! Looks like a Must Have! I'm still tyring to decide whether Cosmic Encounters is worth the price though, but that's for a different thread in a differnet place
 
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russ wrote:
Another significant difference: SB:H is 2-player, while BBS is apparently strictly 3-4 player...


Just a side note, SB:H is 2-player, with two "human" factions. The next expansion (SB: Aliens) is a stand-alone game that is fully compatible with SB:H; it will introduce two new non-human factions, but the scenarios will all still be strictly 2-player.

The 3rd expansion (SB: Us-vs-Them) is not stand-alone (i.e. you'll need to own the two earlier games); it will include multiplayer (3- and 4-player) scenarios and introduce official rules that can be used to create your own home-grown multiplayer scenarios.

There are additional expansions planned for the series beyond SB:A & SB:UvT. These will introduce additional factions to the series (all of which will be fully compatible with the preceding games) and will allow for games with up to six (possibly more?) players.
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Excellent point! So, do I start with the Aliens expansion? Or Humanity?
 
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Inkwan wrote:
Excellent point! So, do I start with the Aliens expansion? Or Humanity?


Since they are both stand alone, either would be fine. The only arguments I can give would be that you can get and play Humanity now rather than wait, and that since the games use a map system where they can be set up in a lot of different configurations, then having Humanity will give you access to more maps for more and bigger scenarios once Aliens comes out. Also you'll have more counters, and possibly the cards will also be usable in Aliens as well.

Edit: spelling
 
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