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...and while I believe I understand the significance I don't know what is customarily expected from guests. Should she take a gift? Is there a traditional type of gift? Any useful information will be appreciated.
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Yep, bring a gift. My mom thought books were what we were supposed to bring, but at the Bar=Mitzvahs and Bat-Mitzvahs I attend as a kid it seemed like most folks brought envelopes with cash. Not sure there's a hard and fast rule though, and my books were always appreciated.
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My neighbors son went to Micheal Dell's son's Bat-Mitzvah. He was wondering what kind of gift you get a billionaires kid.
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MWChapel wrote:
My neighbors son went to Micheal Dell's son's Bat-Mitzvah. He was wondering what kind of gift you get a billionaires kid.


a book
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MWChapel wrote:
My neighbors son went to Micheal Dell's son's Bat-Mitzvah. He was wondering what kind of gift you get a billionaires kid.


An iPad.
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An iPad.


I see what you did there.
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MWChapel wrote:
My neighbors son went to Micheal Dell's son's Bat-Mitzvah. He was wondering what kind of gift you get a billionaires kid.


Don't you mean Bar-Mitzvah?
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Michael Hopcroft wrote:
MWChapel wrote:
My neighbors son went to Micheal Dell's son's Bat-Mitzvah. He was wondering what kind of gift you get a billionaires kid.


Don't you mean Bar-Mitzvah?


Might have been his daughter.
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I would think that if you were giving any sort of gift to someone substantially better of financially than yourself, it should be something of great non-monetary significance. Books and records that they couldn't find for themselves are ideal in that regard. It means you want to share with them something you love. Such a gift can be horizon-expanding much more than a new techno-toy -- and anything that expands a young person's mental and aesthetic horizons is a good thing.
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Often the gift is cash, like at weddings, but that's with North American non-Hassidic boy or girl of the day. For example, with Hassidim ("ultra-orthodox"), it wouldn't be cash.

Bar-Mitvah (son of commandment (sort of); i.e. old enough to be responsible for religious strictures) has become Westernized and modernized. A lot more "bar" than "mitzvah" as the quip goes. Cash buys X-Boxes.

It's really a guy thing. But today, in contemporary times, especially in families without a son at all, Bat-Mitzvah (daughter of...) has become a fashion.


Sorry; to answer your question, an almost universal tradition is to give an amount in a multiple of 18. Like Roman numerals, Hebrew uses the letters of the alphabet for numbering. Life, in Hebrew, is two letters that add up to 18.

Depending on your means, social connection, the size of the shindig, you'd give something like $18, $54, $180, $1.8 million (is that a multiple of 18?), etc.
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isaacc wrote:
Sorry; to answer your question, an almost universal tradition is to give an amount in a multiple of 18. Like Roman numerals, Hebrew uses the letters of the alphabet for numbering. Life, in Hebrew, is two letters that add up to 18.


Aw, crap! I learned something! It's my day off, you know.

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Thanks to all who responded.
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isaacc wrote:

$1.8 million (is that a multiple of 18?)


Unless you have the kind of cash to afford a really thick envelope, for this gift I would go with 18 Woodrows.

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Give the gift of gaming. Everybody loves board games.

That's what I'm giving my nephew whose barmitzvah is later this year, and what I gave his older brother.
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isaacc wrote:

Often the gift is cash, like at weddings, but that's with North American non-Hassidic boy or girl of the day. For example, with Hassidim ("ultra-orthodox"), it wouldn't be cash.

Bar-Mitvah (son of commandment (sort of); i.e. old enough to be responsible for religious strictures) has become Westernized and modernized. A lot more "bar" than "mitzvah" as the quip goes. Cash buys X-Boxes.

It's really a guy thing. But today, in contemporary times, especially in families without a son at all, Bat-Mitzvah (daughter of...) has become a fashion.


Sorry; to answer your question, an almost universal tradition is to give an amount in a multiple of 18. Like Roman numerals, Hebrew uses the letters of the alphabet for numbering. Life, in Hebrew, is two letters that add up to 18.

Depending on your means, social connection, the size of the shindig, you'd give something like $18, $54, $180, $1.8 million (is that a multiple of 18?), etc.
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This is what I'd think too. Unless you know the girl well, I'd not give more than the minimum. Even so, for many in poorer communities, people often do not give gifts and I doubt anyone would be too upset if you merely showed up to add to the joy of the occasion.
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shumyum wrote:
isaacc wrote:

$1.8 million (is that a multiple of 18?)


Unless you have the kind of cash to afford a really thick envelope...

Methinks if you had the cash to give $1.8 million as a gift, you could afford to buy an envelope to put it in, too
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whac3 wrote:
isaacc wrote:

Often the gift is cash, like at weddings, but that's with North American non-Hassidic boy or girl of the day. For example, with Hassidim ("ultra-orthodox"), it wouldn't be cash.

Bar-Mitvah (son of commandment (sort of); i.e. old enough to be responsible for religious strictures) has become Westernized and modernized. A lot more "bar" than "mitzvah" as the quip goes. Cash buys X-Boxes.

It's really a guy thing. But today, in contemporary times, especially in families without a son at all, Bat-Mitzvah (daughter of...) has become a fashion.


Sorry; to answer your question, an almost universal tradition is to give an amount in a multiple of 18. Like Roman numerals, Hebrew uses the letters of the alphabet for numbering. Life, in Hebrew, is two letters that add up to 18.

Depending on your means, social connection, the size of the shindig, you'd give something like $18, $54, $180, $1.8 million (is that a multiple of 18?), etc.
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This is what I'd think too. Unless you know the girl well, I'd not give more than the minimum. Even so, for many in poorer communities, people often do not give gifts and I doubt anyone would be too upset if you merely showed up to add to the joy of the occasion.


How would you calculate the minimum?
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If you think $18 too much to give a 12 year old girl, the $1.80. Otherwise, $18 is the minimum multiple of 18.
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whac3 wrote:
If you think $18 too much to give a 12 year old girl, the $1.80. Otherwise, $18 is the minimum multiple of 18.


I thought there might be more to it than that.
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