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Gregg Saruwatari
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Hey all,

I have been around trying to help out with suggestions of my own, but maybe you guys have some good ones for me! I am looking for a game recommendation for my group of 3 gamer couples- so 6 players.
We do like strategy, but due to playing after work on Fridays and new babies, shorter play time has become desirable, as well. A 2 hour game would have to be engaging to all and satisfying with a single play in a day. 45 min to hour games could be played a few times in a session.

Here are a few of our thoughts about games:
Our current favorite is Race for the Galaxy +2 expansions (we play this more than once every week)
We have played some Puerto Rico and Fleet recently- They are short enough where someone wouldn’t mind sitting out, but deep enough where we are not bored. But we like RFTG better.
7 Wonders, Power Grid and Dominion we are completely bored with (Cosmic Encounter mostly bored)
We don’t want “gateway games” like Settlers, Carcassonne, Munchkin, Ticket to Ride, King of Tokyo- too much random chance
Agricola and El Grande we like, but AP makes them too long in our playgroup (Lords of Waterdeep too)
We like Eclipse, but it is too long for our current situation now
Arkham Horror/D&D are too long now
The girls can’t stand RoboRally or Magic
I am trying to get everyone to try Battlestar Galactica, but worry it might be too long
 
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Flyboy Connor wrote:


I raise with The Resistance:Avalon.

Another possible: Panic Station (4-6).

With some practice a game of BSG can be played in 2-2.5 hours, especially/even with both expansions.
 
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How about Rex: Final Days of an Empire?
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Have you looked at Libertalia? It plays up to 6 and once everyone knows how to play you could probably get in a full game in an hour.
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You want this:
*** Keyflower *** - I cannot recommend this highly enough. Once you have it down, it should take right around 2-2.5 hours with 6 players.

Other good 6P games, shorter play time:
Eketorp
Hoity Toity
Alhambra
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You may all be divorced by the end of the night, but a negotiation game like Lifeboats or I'm the Boss! would fit the bill. They play best with 6, are supremely engaging, and clock in at 60-90 minutes. They do have the risk of hard feelings though, so you'll have to gauge your group.
 
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+1 for Railways of the World ... great for 5 to 6. But you need a big table.
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Take a look at VivaJava: The Coffee Game. We played a 7p game and it took us around 2 hours. The game handles that many player greatly.

Another one that I've recently played was Viticulture. A game about wine making. It handles up to 6 players, but so far I've only played it with 4 players.

EDIT: +1 for Keyflower. I enjoyed my 6p game.
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+1 Keyflower
+1 Yggdrasil
Libertalia
 
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Add another +1 to Keyflower

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Winter Tales is a great, deeply immersive, storytelling game for 3-7 players, with variable duration, dependent on your own preference. It's my current favourite for this player count, but needs careful selection of players because it's not a comfortable genre for all gamers.

My go-to games for six are:

Dixit
The Resistance: Avalon
Dice Town with extension (might be too random for you)
Flash Point (a lot of downtime with 6 though)
Power Grid: First Sparks (might refresh your enjoyment of Power Grid, or might seem like a re-hash)
Formula De (luck-driven again!)
For Sale (probably too light for you)
Diamant (also light)
Keyflower (this is good and deep - worth considering)
 
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Chicago Express says it plays up to 6. I've played it with 4 in an hour, so I imagine it would still take less than 2 hours to play with 6.
 
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6 players in under 2 hours, no fillers, aka decent weight but not too long. That is a game that is tough to find and I've been trying to find lately myself.

The two best I have are:

VivaJava: The Coffee Game - This game is very original both in theme and in gameplay. It's a Euro with kind of a social party element and plays quickly.

Acquire - This is a complete classic standbye and is still one of the kings of quick, deep 6 player gaming.

Complete fail in our group:

Chicago Express - I got this game because it plays up to 6, but nobody liked the game with 6. With 4, it's good, but no-one enjoyed 6.

Filler length but amazing game:

For Sale - Every time I play this game I am more amazed by it. What a clinic on fun vs complexity.
 
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Power Grid: The First Sparks fits within that time frame with 6.

Also:
Bohnanza
Citadels

And though you ruled out Ticket to Ride, the 6-player Team Asia version makes it quite a different game than normal, I recommend you check it out.
 
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Thoughts so far (please let me know if I am mistaken):

Some games seem similar to games we already own and enjoy so I would hesitate buying them:
Resistance, Avalon and Panic Station seem similar to BSG
Rex seems similar to Eclipse
Have Arkham horror for Co-op, Flash point and Yggdrasil look less interesting and are also co-ops
Railways of the world just looks like a more intelligent Ticket to Ride, but train theme isn't that interesting to me anyway.

Too much random dice or draw?:
Alhambra, Elder Sign, dice town, flash point, formula De, dice town,

Don't really like trading as a major mechanic as it leads to kingmaking, also set collection doesn't interest me:
Bohnanza, Hoity Toity (lifeboats and I'm the boss sounds like kingmaking)

Have already and don't play that often:
Dixit, Citadels

Winter Tales sounds interesting, but I don't think this group would react well to unclear definitions of winning and also having to be creative after the work week on Friday.

Sounds like Chicago Express may be a good game that isn't as good with 6?

I have read reviews but am interested in hearing more about the positives and negatives of Libertalia, Eketorp, VivaJava, Power Grid First Sparks,

Sounds like I should definitely pick up Keyflower and For Sale(if For Sale isn't good for Game group it looks great to take to my Math class).
 
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Love your game. We have also considered buying another copy of Fleet and scaling it up to 6. Some people have had success in implementing that.

bno70_1 wrote:
6 players in under 2 hours, no fillers, aka decent weight but not too long. That is a game that is tough to find and I've been trying to find lately myself.

The two best I have are:

VivaJava: The Coffee Game - This game is very original both in theme and in gameplay. It's a Euro with kind of a social party element and plays quickly.

Acquire - This is a complete classic standbye and is still one of the kings of quick, deep 6 player gaming.

Complete fail in our group:

Chicago Express - I got this game because it plays up to 6, but nobody liked the game with 6. With 4, it's good, but no-one enjoyed 6.

Filler length but amazing game:

For Sale - Every time I play this game I am more amazed by it. What a clinic on fun vs complexity.
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You know, I have a hunch that finding suitable games is going to be a real challenge given your specific stipulations. Why not just break into two smaller groups of varying size? You DO know this would help resolve your difficult hunt dramatically, yeah?

Just do it, trust me. Y'all can reconfigure any way you'd like, but I guarantee you will have way more satisfying options...
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GrimThunderbrew wrote:

Some games seem similar to games we already own and enjoy so I would hesitate buying them:
Resistance, Avalon and Panic Station seem similar to BSG


The similarity ends at there being traitors, the above don't really play anything like BSG. (We also don't buy games that are close copies of the games we already have.) If your problem is that BSG takes too long for it to get played, why are you passing on shorter games that would actually get played? If you don't like the traitor mechanics, that is another thing.

Good luck with the search.
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been playing Dune with the Dune: The Duel expansion lately ... though hard to come by well worth the cash required game can take 1 hour to 4 to play each turn could end it and the threats of "Kanly" duels throw so much humor into the mix it's quite engaging..

If your not up to mortgaging house to buy both of these oop games try Rex: Final Days of an Empire this rethemed take on dune is supposed to be fun ...
 
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a1bert wrote:
GrimThunderbrew wrote:

Some games seem similar to games we already own and enjoy so I would hesitate buying them:
Resistance, Avalon and Panic Station seem similar to BSG


The similarity ends at there being traitors, the above don't really play anything like BSG. (We also don't buy games that are close copies of the games we already have.) If your problem is that BSG takes too long for it to get played, why are you passing on shorter games that would actually get played? If you don't like the traitor mechanics, that is another thing.

Good luck with the search.


Saboteur 2 (expansion-only editions) is another decent traitor game which plays in your time-frame, with large numbers. It doesn't feel anything like the afore-mentioned games because of the tunnel-building maze-like aspects of the card-play, although the accusations are bandied about in a similar manner to BSG.
 
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My absolute 6 player game, not too long and pretty easy to learn is Room 25
 
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In my regular gaming group we do just that. However, this group is THREE COUPLES. The women do not want to be split up, and they do want to play with their husbands. We are all lucky these women are not afraid of heavier games and do not mind being out-strategized. I am sure there are other people in the same situation, including game designers.

We used to play D&D together, but babies have caused us to try and find somewhat shorter games. Your suggestion is good and what we do in my Saturday group, but unfortunately we are looking for something else for my Friday group.

pacman88k wrote:
You know, I have a hunch that finding suitable games is going to be a real challenge given your specific stipulations. Why not just break into two smaller groups of varying size? You DO know this would help resolve your difficult hunt dramatically, yeah?

Just do it, trust me. Y'all can reconfigure any way you'd like, but I guarantee you will have way more satisfying options...
 
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Vrass wrote:
My absolute 6 player game, not too long and pretty easy to learn is Room 25


In suspicion mode it is great! cool
 
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