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Christopher Beck
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This may have been covered elsewhere, but I am having trouble finding it. I want to know how the two player game is and if this is worth grabbing for solely 2-player fun? I have Bioshock Infinite: Siege of Columbia preordered, but I am looking for a PHG fix now! I know there is bidding, but I have read that it doesn't really matter as much.

Any thoughts?
 
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I find the game scales very well regardless of how many players. There are many different strategies to employ while playing, which makes every game different. In every game I've played, whether 2 or 3 players, the final scoring was very close - between 5 and 1 points.
 
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You know guys, I've liked this game so much that it's gettin' hard not to post when I see a topic that I haven't considered yet.
Mike's hit that nail right on the head and really, if you haven't played this game yet, it's really hard for the rest of us to tell you exactly how cool it really is.
A two player game between two experienced and dedicated, serious players is freakin' awesome. Like naked coed beer drinking chess on every drug imaginable...
But to take your thoughts a step further, can "bidding" on recruitable gangers be, "doesn't really matter much"..?
And I suppose it could. If you have two really smart players and they both want to "turtle" up and play the money economy game with little or no fighting, then yes, you could completely nullify the whole bidding process and the game will still function.
But what many people learn after playing, is that "turtling" is but one of your many options and often times, your "worst" (or at least, certainly not the "best").
Can you lose (or do really poorly) in the bidding recruiting game and still kick your opponent's tight jean wearin' butt across the City and out the other side, yeps.
And to say that a two player game is supreme with two capable players, a three or four player (again with competent players) game is the type where people don't want to go home afterwards, they want to stay up until three in the morning and play another war where they try another gang color or tactic.
With three player games, if you're doing good in your money economy, you can buy a "building" tile (a nice shiny expensive one) and place it on the opposite side of the City, between your other two opponents ensuring that they will have to fight over it leaving you unharmed for the duration of the game.
Which is even cooler when someone else does it to you and you recognize this tactic for what it really is.
Do you ignore the Underground Casino sittin' there with it's three Renown and six ARCs money potential..?
Do you agree to split it with your opponent agreeing to attack the trickster who hoped to "control" you using your own greed..?

I can't tell you enough about this game Christopher. If I could I would fill this whole corner of the internet about tactics and this game but I'm too busy playing it all the time.
Buy it, thank the makers and type some more when you have questions.
Until then, fight the Yugai people..!
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I'm going to take this as a resounding "yes" then!

I plan on playing this with my wife, who enjoys such games as Mansions of Madness, Lords of Waterdeep, Wiz-War, 7 Wonders, etc. She like economic games, but she also like games where she can bloody my nose. So City of Remnants sounds like it might be a hit. It isn't overly complex to learn, right? It seems fairly reasonable.
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I think I've decided I like the 2-player game the best, since it doesn't have to play like a knife fight in a phone booth (although it still can, if one of the players is inclined to make it so). The 4-player game always plays like a knife fight in a phone booth. The 3-player game plays very well too; I just don't like the asymmetric YCU drop distribution as much, but that's not a big deal.

But like the others said, there's really no wrong number to play with. I just prefer the 2-player game a little more since it can feel like anything from a resource management euro to an in-your-face wargame, depending on the aggression levels of the players.
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...and I prefer the 4-player, because no one player can dominate the knife fight!

Remnants offers plenty of options for your group's play styles.

Oh, and the 2P auction can get downright mean. Have fun
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Hey Chris, I don't suppose you are anywhere near Beavercreek and want to get together to play City of Remnants?
 
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How do the auctions work in this game with two? Do you like them, usually auctions aren't very good with only two.
 
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LunarSoundDesign wrote:
How do the auctions work in this game with two? Do you like them, usually auctions aren't very good with only two.


Only played this with 2 players once and it was a dogfight. The auction from memory was just an excuse to drive up the price for your opponent. But you have to be careful incase they let you have the gang member. You'll be forced to purchase it at that high price AND it uses up one of your actions, potentially leaving you with a gang member you didn't necessarily want.
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