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"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."

*sigh*

Anyway, where would I go to do that? Netflix and Amazon only have selected episodes from each season, and I'm curious to see how the entire series developed over time. Oh, and I'd like to recognize a few more of the inside jokes in the current revival.

So. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'd rather not have to rely on YouTube, if possible.
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Don't do it. It's a deep hole you will never climb out of in this lifetime.

(full disclosure: I have never watched an episode - just sounds a bit off)
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Say I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes--

Actually, you can't. Some of them are literally lost.
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Short answer: You can't.

Long answer: A large number of the episodes from the first dozen or so years of the show are gone. The original tapes were erased by BBC archive staff. Copies had been sent off to various TV stations around the world, so they may still exist, but nobody has found them yet. As for the best selection, Amazon and Netflix seem to have some different stuff, so both are okay.
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sign up for the bbc archive and stream them
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A large portion of the classic run was never formally released on home video, either in the VCR era or the DVD era. Season sets were not released for any of the classic seasons (with the exception of Tom Baker's Key to Time storyarc and the Colin Baker Trial of a time Lord story arc). A lot of people taped the episodes off the air while they were running in syndication (usually on public stations) and some of those might still be in circulation.

Although about two-thirds of the black-and-white run is lost on video, all the soundtracks were preserved. Independent fan groups would put together tapes using those soundtracks, production stills, subtitles to describe the action, and the episodes of those stories that did still exist.

But watching even the entire run of the color series in sequence is a herculean task.
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Michael Hopcroft wrote:
A large portion of the classic run was never formally released on home video, either in the VCR era or the DVD era.


Actually there's only about half a dozen of the still existing stories that have yet to be released on DVD.
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Really, no one??

OK, I'll do it.

"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."

(for a better setup, the topic should have been 'Say I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes, together.')



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All you need is a Tardis. Then you can go back in time to when each episode was first aired.
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"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."

*sigh*

Anyway, where would I go to do that? Netflix and Amazon only have selected episodes from each season, and I'm curious to see how the entire series developed over time. Oh, and I'd like to recognize a few more of the inside jokes in the current revival.

So. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'd rather not have to rely on YouTube, if possible.


Run. Run away for your sense of taste and dignity. What you suggest is an utter horror beyond that which a tasteful, intelligent human being should suffer.

(Nah, there are a couple of neat eps and some nifty characters but it's probably the most famous series that's the most badly over-rated, imho)
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You come and visit me, since I have nearly all of them on DVD (either purchased or copied from an early 2000s run on NZ TV), plus the audios of the missing episodes!

To be honest, libraries probably are your cheapest option unless you can find a friendly local Dr Who fan.

As a starter for the first 3 Doctors I recommend (complete in video stories only):
1st Doctor:
An Unearthly Child - the very first episode, the rest of the story is not great.
The Daleks - Too long at 7 episodes but introduces the iconic baddies
The Aztecs - The Doctor gets engaged and history is not changed
Dalek Invasion of Earth - First change of companion, spooky Daleks in empty London
The Romans - Best of the humorous historicals
The Chase - 2 early companions get a great send-off after a manic race against the Daleks
The War Machines - Doctor Who finally hits the swinging 60s

2nd Doctor:
Tomb of the Cybermen - The best showing for these aliens, and te 2nd Doctor demonstrates his new style, leading the humans on while warning them not to tamper... but he just has to know.
The Mind Robber - Great surrealistic battle against 'the Master', with the Doctor using his mind and story-telling skills
The War Games - A ten-part story that re-writes the Doctor's background, introduces other Timelords and leads him to change again.

3rd Doctor: All of Them are available in at least Black and White.
-Spearhead from Space
-The Silurians
-Inferno
-Terror of the Autons
-The Daemons
-The Curse of Peladon
-The 3 Doctors
-Carnival of Monsters
-The Green Death
-The Time Warrior
-Planet of the Spiders
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As people have noted, the whole run of classic Who is not available in its entirety. However, all episodes from the seventh season onward do exist. Also to note is that even the missing stories all have the full existing audio, so you can listen to them in the very least.

Libraries are a good place to try, as is Netflix's disc service (which has been much less vogue than their instant service recently, but I still find it to be much superior).

Watching the whole thing (or as much as possible) is a daunting task even when it is all available to you (or as much as possible is available). I think these are largely the best classic Who stories. They can be watched in isolation, or in order (I'd recommend in order). From here, figure out what you like and watch more stuff from that era/actor/season/writer. (Carrots denote incomplete stories that had their missing episodes animated, with full original audio.)

First Doctor
An Unearthly Child
The Daleks
The Aztecs
The Reign of Terror ^
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Rescue
The Romans
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Tenth Planet ^

Second Doctor
The Tomb of the Cybermen
The Invasion ^
The War Games

Third Doctor
Spearhead from Space
Inferno
Terror of the Autons
The Mind of Evil
The Three Doctors
Frontier in Space
The Green Death
The Time Warrior
Planet of Spiders

Fourth Doctor
Robot
Genesis of the Daleks
Planet of Evil
Pyramids of Mars
The Brain of Morbius
The Seeds of Doom
The Hand of Fear
The Deadly Assassin
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
The Invasion of Time
The Ribos Operations
The Androids of Tara
Destiny of the Daleks
City of Death
Full Circle
State of Decay
Warriors' Gate
The Keeper of Traken
Logopolis

Fifth Doctor
Castrovalva
The Visitation
Earthshock
Snakedance
Mawdryn Undead
Frontios
Resurrection of the Daleks
Planet of Fire
The Caves of Androzani

Sixth Doctor
Vengence on Varos
The Two Doctors

Seventh Doctor
Dragonfire
Remembrance of the Daleks
Silver Nemesis
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
Battlefield
Ghost Light
The Curse of Fenric
Survival

EDIT: Grammar, spelling
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jeffreyac wrote:
Really, no one??

OK, I'll do it.

"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."

Verkisto, in the original post, wrote:
"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."
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Verkisto wrote:
jeffreyac wrote:
Really, no one??

OK, I'll do it.

"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."

Verkisto, in the original post, wrote:
"I want to watch all of the classic Doctor Who episodes."


blush

(that's what I get for just scanning replies to see if the snarky comment in my head has been posted yet!)
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These are the one's I'd recommend:
First Doctor
An Unearthly Child (only for the first episode)
Edge of Destruction
The Daleks
The Aztecs
The Reign of Terror ^
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Rescue
The Romans
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Tenth Planet ^

Second Doctor
The Tomb of the Cybermen
Moonbase ^
Seeds of Death
The Invasion ^
The War Games

Third Doctor
Spearhead from Space
Inferno
Terror of the Autons
Claws of Axos
Sea Devils
Planet of the Daleks
Daemons
Time Warrior
The Three Doctors
Frontier in Space
The Green Death
The Time Warrior
Planet of Spiders

Fourth Doctor
Robot
Ark in Space/Sontaran Experiment
Robots of Death
Terror of the Zygons
Stones of Blood
Masque of Mandragora
Face of Evil
Genesis of the Daleks
Planet of Evil
Pyramids of Mars
The Brain of Morbius
The Seeds of Doom
The Hand of Fear
The Deadly Assassin
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
The Invasion of Time
The Ribos Operations
Horror of Fang Rock
Deadly Assasin
The Androids of Tara
City of Death
The Keeper of Traken (because it is more important than great)
Logopolis

Fifth Doctor
Castrovalva
Black Orchid
The Visitation
Earthshock
Snakedance
The Caves of Androzani

Sixth Doctor
Terror of the Vervoids

Seventh Doctor
Dragonfire
Remembrance of the Daleks
Ghost Light
The Curse of Fenric

Eighth Doctor
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Seventh Doctor
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Travesty.
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logopolys wrote:
sisteray wrote:
Seventh Doctor
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Travesty.


It was a typo.
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sisteray wrote:
logopolys wrote:
sisteray wrote:
Seventh Doctor
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Travesty.


It was a typo.

Ah. Withdrawn then.

Overall, I find your recommendation well-rounded. Not entirely mine (obviously), but that's the great part of classic Who.
The lack of chronological order is killing me, though...
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Actually, all available classic episodes are relatively easy to download from various websites.

And I do not think they are overrated per se, but they are really dated.
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logopolys wrote:
The lack of chronological order is killing me, though...
That's all right, the Doctor isn't really used to doing things in order.
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Actually, all available classic episodes are relatively easy to download from various websites.

If capitalism votes with its wallet, I am more than happy to buy classic Who DVDs.

Flyboy Connor wrote:
And I do not think they are overrated per se, but they are really dated.

For the most part, I think that they do stand up to modern television as far as script, story, and acting goes. Special effects may be hit or miss, but I still wouldn't say "dated" if it may have looked a little shabby at the time as well.

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The lack of chronological order is killing me, though...
That's all right, the Doctor isn't really used to doing things in order.

Touché.
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One of the things is that the futures portrayed in the classic series is the future people expected in the time it was made. Today we would think building a msssive mission control system for space travel near the South Pole wold be ludicrous in general, much less for 1986. Things like the Internet weren't even concepts.

That said, in some things they were ahead of the curve in terms of what science fiction is thinking about. The Cybermen are transhumanism brought to life. The Matrix on Gallifrey was a massive VR computer network -- in a story that was made in 1976, there are other examples.
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What I want to see is the list of episodes you'd give to someone who was looking for that MST3K so-bad-it's-good experience.

The Time Monster is way up there on my list. I can't believe they ever intended it to be taken seriously.

Top ten bottom stories for me:

10. Timelash (6: 1985)
9. Warriors of the Deep (5: 1984)
8. The Horns of Nimon (4: 1979-1980)
7. The Twin Dilemma (6: 1984)
6. Meglos (4: 1980)
5. The Invisible Enemy (4: 1977)
4. Underworld (4: 1978)
3. The Monster of Peledon (3: 1974)
2. The King's Demons (5: 1983)
1. Paradise Towers (7: 1987)

The Time Monster is in my bottom 25, though.
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Michael Hopcroft wrote:
A large portion of the classic run was never formally released on home video, either in the VCR era or the DVD era.


Not so. I have all of them on VHS tape. Of course that's UK PAL, not US NTSC. But if it matters enough you could work around that.

(I of course wish I could snap my fingers and convert them all to DVD. I'm not sure what fraction are out on Region 2 DVD, a majority I think - but may be wrong - but not an overwhelming one.)
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I'm not sure what fraction are out on Region 2 DVD, a majority I think - but may be wrong - but not an overwhelming one.

Almost everything possible is out. The rest should be out in the next year or so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_DVD_and_Blu-...
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