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I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards. I've missed out on a couple kickstarters before and been disappointed. I thought I'd help others who missed out on their opportunity to pledge and get all the extra goodies. So if anyone wants to add some sort of pledge let me know and I'll set it up on ebay. I figure that would be the easiest and safest place. I set up a couple Captain level ones already here. Once I get them I will ship them to you.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I'm just starting it at $100, and I will pay the extra shipping whatever that is. I am not looking to make a profit from this, just to help out those who got into it a little late. I'll open up as many auctions as people who are interested. Please let me know!
 
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For the record, selling something on ebay over 8 months in advance really doesnt offer any extra security.
From experience, Ebay will do NOTHING after 90 days.

I think its a cool idea.
I think setting it up here thru the marketplace would be a better idea.
BGG takes less than ebay in fees.
And here people have a reputation thats important within the community.

Ive helped people piggy back a few times.
The way ive worked it before is payment via paypal with email trails so that both sides understand everything coming and going and have proof.

Just food for thought.

Past that, thanks for working to help the community.
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Okay. I haven't tried doing anything in the BGG marketplace, but maybe I'd give it a shot. I'm most familiar with ebay though.
 
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eternaldream wrote:
I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards.

Would be pretty shitty exclusives if they were readily available afterwards :-)
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Also, even if you have missed the KS you still probably have months to get in as a late pledger. I pledged on Relic Knights almost 3 months after the KS had ended. It would be easier for somebody to do that.
 
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n3rd wrote:
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I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards.

Would be pretty shitty exclusives if they were readily available afterwards :-)


There's always timed exclusives

Nothing wrong with exclusive content, frankly my biggest issue with it is the inflated sale price afterwards. Personally if I get something exclusive, because for example I kickstarted it, I like it more if ONLY other kickstarter backers have it, not people that went & bought it later off ebay.
 
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eternaldream wrote:
I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards. I've missed out on a couple kickstarters before and been disappointed. I thought I'd help others who missed out on their opportunity to pledge and get all the extra goodies. So if anyone wants to add some sort of pledge let me know and I'll set it up on ebay. I figure that would be the easiest and safest place. I set up a couple Captain level ones already here. Once I get them I will ship them to you.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I'm just starting it at $100, and I will pay the extra shipping whatever that is. I am not looking to make a profit from this, just to help out those who got into it a little late. I'll open up as many auctions as people who are interested. Please let me know!


SCALPER!!!!!

I'm not impressed.

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I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards. I've missed out on a couple kickstarters before and been disappointed. I thought I'd help others who missed out on their opportunity to pledge and get all the extra goodies. So if anyone wants to add some sort of pledge let me know and I'll set it up on ebay. I figure that would be the easiest and safest place. I set up a couple Captain level ones already here. Once I get them I will ship them to you.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I'm just starting it at $100, and I will pay the extra shipping whatever that is. I am not looking to make a profit from this, just to help out those who got into it a little late. I'll open up as many auctions as people who are interested. Please let me know!


SCALPER!!!!!

I'm not impressed.

-Ski


Not sure he's a scalper to be fair. His eBay rating is 100% positive from over 200 feedback and the listings do state that they are pre-orders to help out people who missed out. I just think there's better ways of doing it than through eBay.
 
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Why not do a Buy-it-now on Ebay if you're not looking to profit?

Also, you will have associated Ebay fees and if you sell several of these your Ebay fees may be quite substantial.
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SCALPER!!!!!

I'm not impressed.


Eh, ticket scalping is a problem because you're buying an inherently limited resource, thereby depriving people of the ability to buy them at the normal price, and then reselling them into an artificially limited market.

You can't "scalp" Myth, because there weren't a limited number of copies printed. If ten thousand people had pledged intending to resell, they'd just print ten thousand extra copies and none of the "legitimate" pledges would have been affected in any way. Nobody missed out on Myth because OP bought a couple of extra copies.

Obviously this argument only works for things which are not limited -- campaigns which offer early bird pledges and the like can indeed be "scalped".
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I'm really not trying to scalp. I tried doing a Buy it Now but it wouldn't let me doing it without putting a price in first. I sell a lot on ebay, but I don't really do anything fancy. If I knew how to do the BGG store I'd do that. I just don't know how. :/
 
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BGG Marketplace is super easy. Click Bazaar on the top line, then select Marketplace. There is a link for Sell a Game. It's pretty straightforward from there...
 
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Just a heads up that this against ebay policies as well.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...
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All kinds of wrong here.

If you are giving people a chance to do a captain level pledge, it should be buy it now at $100 (plus a shipping fee for you).

However, ebay specify goods must be available within 30 days of payment. Myth isn't available for eight months (maybe more), so you are breaking the rules.

Your listing also specifies goods will ship in May.

Of course, you are also selling a place on a crowd-funding project as a preorder. That's probably not a good idea either.

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Okay, fair enough. Just trying to help. I took down the auctions.
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eternaldream wrote:
I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards. I've missed out on a couple kickstarters before and been disappointed. I thought I'd help others who missed out on their opportunity to pledge and get all the extra goodies. So if anyone wants to add some sort of pledge let me know and I'll set it up on ebay. I figure that would be the easiest and safest place. I set up a couple Captain level ones already here. Once I get them I will ship them to you.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I'm just starting it at $100, and I will pay the extra shipping whatever that is. I am not looking to make a profit from this, just to help out those who got into it a little late. I'll open up as many auctions as people who are interested. Please let me know!


I would definitely take you up on this. I meant to do a $100 pledge and missed the deadline.
 
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I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards. I've missed out on a couple kickstarters before and been disappointed. I thought I'd help others who missed out on their opportunity to pledge and get all the extra goodies. So if anyone wants to add some sort of pledge let me know and I'll set it up on ebay. I figure that would be the easiest and safest place. I set up a couple Captain level ones already here. Once I get them I will ship them to you.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I'm just starting it at $100, and I will pay the extra shipping whatever that is. I am not looking to make a profit from this, just to help out those who got into it a little late. I'll open up as many auctions as people who are interested. Please let me know!


I would definitely take you up on this. I meant to do a $100 pledge and missed the deadline.


Try contacting MERCs direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.
 
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I absolutely hate exclusives, especially when they are not readily available afterwards. I've missed out on a couple kickstarters before and been disappointed. I thought I'd help others who missed out on their opportunity to pledge and get all the extra goodies. So if anyone wants to add some sort of pledge let me know and I'll set it up on ebay. I figure that would be the easiest and safest place. I set up a couple Captain level ones already here. Once I get them I will ship them to you.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I'm just starting it at $100, and I will pay the extra shipping whatever that is. I am not looking to make a profit from this, just to help out those who got into it a little late. I'll open up as many auctions as people who are interested. Please let me know!


I would definitely take you up on this. I meant to do a $100 pledge and missed the deadline.


Try contacting MERCs direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.


I second this. I did it with LOKA
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Try contacting MERCs direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

I decided to go for 2xCaptain, will probably take some of the miniatures to get me to dual lair, and then sell the rest. It seemed like a way better deal than paying for the extras from a cost standpoint.
 
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MattVid wrote:
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Try contacting direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

Because the Twilight Knight is not a "stretch reward", it's a gift to backers from another backer, KD:M.
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MattVid wrote:
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Try contacting MERCs direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

I decided to go for 2xCaptain, will probably take some of the miniatures to get me to dual lair, and then sell the rest. It seemed like a way better deal than paying for the extras from a cost standpoint.


She was one for each backer at $75+.
Not for each pledge.
They clarified this in the KS.

So yeah, anyone who piggy backs does not get the Twilight Knight.
Same thing from the KD:M KS.
Didnt think about that.
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Terah wrote:
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Try contacting direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

Because the Twilight Knight is not a "stretch reward", it's a gift to backers from another backer, KD:M.

That is pretty dumb, I guess I should have just made 2 different accounts then. I find it funny offering rewards for exploiting a system that is easy to exploit, and then not offering it for people that only have one account. Oh well.
 
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MattVid wrote:
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MattVid wrote:
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Try contacting direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

Because the Twilight Knight is not a "stretch reward", it's a gift to backers from another backer, KD:M.

That is pretty dumb, I guess I should have just made 2 different accounts then. I find it funny offering rewards for exploiting a system that is easy to exploit, and then not offering it for people that only have one account. Oh well.


It wasnt something that Mercs did.
Adam that did KD:M bought one of the slots where you design a special character for the game.
He had the option to keep it SUPER exclusive and only him get it, or share it with the KS.
He chose to share it, on the grounds that it would be one per backer, not pledge.
My thinking of his view of that was thus:
He is bashfully optimistic of the gamer world.
He did the same thing with her in his KS.
And I expect people did take advantage and do two accounts.

But what I know of him, he would not have expected people to do this.
He would expect that each person would get one, thereby making it a very personal gift, and very limited.

So yeah, it may have been set up where some few could exploit it.
Im sure a few did. But, I imagine, most didnt.

So the real question is, would you have done so if you knew?
Now knowing the intent of the free gift?
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MattVid wrote:
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Try contacting direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

Because the Twilight Knight is not a "stretch reward", it's a gift to backers from another backer, KD:M.

That is pretty dumb, I guess I should have just made 2 different accounts then. I find it funny offering rewards for exploiting a system that is easy to exploit, and then not offering it for people that only have one account. Oh well.


It wasnt something that Mercs did.
Adam that did KD:M bought one of the slots where you design a special character for the game.
He had the option to keep it SUPER exclusive and only him get it, or share it with the KS.
He chose to share it, on the grounds that it would be one per backer, not pledge.
My thinking of his view of that was thus:
He is bashfully optimistic of the gamer world.
He did the same thing with her in his KS.
And I expect people did take advantage and do two accounts.

But what I know of him, he would not have expected people to do this.
He would expect that each person would get one, thereby making it a very personal gift, and very limited.

So yeah, it may have been set up where some few could exploit it.
Im sure a few did. But, I imagine, most didnt.

So the real question is, would you have done so if you knew?
Now knowing the intent of the free gift?


If only a lot of people could see things in this light. Everyone is lucky someone took a 2k purchase for a mini-boss and then let it be put out there for anyone beyond themselves. However since following KS..this is my first btw... it is clear the masses that are on a KS are just looking to maximize freebies at a lower cost to them that they can maximize later when/if they resell. I do believe you have the true intent of KS in your head and the masses have lost that that complain and exploit on a technicality when they themselves wouldn't do the same.
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lucerian wrote:
ropya wrote:
MattVid wrote:
Terah wrote:
MattVid wrote:
RedMonkeyBoy wrote:
Try contacting direct. I'm pretty sure people are still getting in pledges. And if you go direct to them you get the promo Twilight Knight, which you wouldn't get by piggybacking on other people's pledges.

How would you not get the Twilight Knight? If you pledge 2xCaptain, you get all the stretch rewards, no?

Because the Twilight Knight is not a "stretch reward", it's a gift to backers from another backer, KD:M.

That is pretty dumb, I guess I should have just made 2 different accounts then. I find it funny offering rewards for exploiting a system that is easy to exploit, and then not offering it for people that only have one account. Oh well.


It wasnt something that Mercs did.
Adam that did KD:M bought one of the slots where you design a special character for the game.
He had the option to keep it SUPER exclusive and only him get it, or share it with the KS.
He chose to share it, on the grounds that it would be one per backer, not pledge.
My thinking of his view of that was thus:
He is bashfully optimistic of the gamer world.
He did the same thing with her in his KS.
And I expect people did take advantage and do two accounts.

But what I know of him, he would not have expected people to do this.
He would expect that each person would get one, thereby making it a very personal gift, and very limited.

So yeah, it may have been set up where some few could exploit it.
Im sure a few did. But, I imagine, most didnt.

So the real question is, would you have done so if you knew?
Now knowing the intent of the free gift?


If only a lot of people could see things in this light. Everyone is lucky someone took a 2k purchase for a mini-boss and then let it be put out there for anyone beyond themselves. However since following KS..this is my first btw... it is clear the masses that are on a KS are just looking to maximize freebies at a lower cost to them that they can maximize later when/if they resell. I do believe you have the true intent of KS in your head and the masses have lost that that complain and exploit on a technicality when they themselves wouldn't do the same.


Agree completely. I see so many comments from people about how they can't wait to sell their additional promos (particularly Zombicide) to make a buck. We got an awesome deal from MERCS who just kept throwing stuff at us, spent a lot of their time responding to questions and giving people what they asked for, and still people want to set up second accounts to inflate numbers to get Connor and now to get a second copy of the Twilight Knight (although it is odd that they didn't give one per pledge above $75 to be honest as some people pledge together with friends etc.).

For the record I do not think the OP was trying to con anybody, he did seem to genuinely be trying to help (otherwise why would he have advertised it so well). But I don't think eBay is the best way of doing it and MERCS released this statement as part of their latest update:

If you missed the KS and messaged me about getting in the pledge manager, we'll square you away when we launch the pledge manager. You'll be able to add additional items, increase pledge level, and confirm your order.

So you are able to get on as a later pledger.
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