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I just picked up Pandemic at target and they had Forbidden Island on clearance for $9 so I grabbed it. I haven't played either one yet but I hear a lot of people say Forbidden Island is only a stepping stone but I want to know does anyone enjoy both?

Before I open Forbidden Island I would appreciate some feedback from those who own them on weather or not I should keep it. I already have some decent filler games and even though it was cheap, no point keeping it if it would just collect dust.
 
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We played my copy of Forbidden Island just once. We quickly got the strategy down, and won the game easily. Using a higher difficulty may change things, but if your group is even just medium-advanced, I would not bother.

But then again, if you don't play BSG for months and months before trying out Forbidden Island, your mileage may vary..
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Forbidden Island sets up in 2 minutes, plays in 30, takes up little table space, can be played with non-gamers and kids easily, has very little rules overhead, transports well, has a pleasing theme and art direction, is highly moddable, and includes great components. There is definitely room for it--quite literally--in most collections.
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Considering that Last Night on Earth: The Zombie Game and Ghost Stories are a couple of your highest ranked games, I feel comfortable saying that you won't find Forbidden Island much of a challenge or very engaging. It's not a bad game, and can be fun in its own right, but it is quite simple, and forming a strategy during its most challenging moments is seldom more than an obvious decision between evils at any given time, and the flavour doesn't manifest itself all that well in my opinion. Watch a video of it being played or explained, and you'll probably absorb most everything you'll ever get from it. But hey, that's me and I can be kind of jerk...
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My group is just me and my girlfriend. She really loves Ghost Stories, Elder Sign, and Quarriors!. I guess it may be good for a filler, just don't know what the allure would be to play it. Perhaps I give it as a gift to someone in the family. We don't have kids.
 
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Sadly, not for me. I own both and didn't enjoy Forbidden Island at all! Neither did my group. They prefer to play Pandemic.
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I have only played Forbidden Island when kids were playing.
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I don't think there is any point in owning both (play both pick which you prefer) - but hey $9 is a steal and you can make a pal happy by giving it to them as a gift.

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I guess I will be the desenting voice amongst the other gamers.
I own both games, and while Pandemic is more challenging it just hasn't clicked with is that much.
Pandemic is a game universally praised and while there is nothing mechanically wrong with the game, it just falls flat with me.

Forbidden Island, on the other hand, I quite enjoy.
But I do have children and my wife and I have never played it alone.
I find that the artwork is beautiful and the theme comes through in this game.
The treasure pieces are really cool, you want to be the one to get them.
The tiles have really nice art, and they are double sided (the flooded side is just blue and white).
This game is by no means a brain burner, but it is a fun little filler.
We can play a game in about a 1/2 hour, and if you start at the highest difficulty it can be a bit challenging especially depending on the roles you get.
Lastly, the thing that really helps this game are the variant tile set-ups that were only included on the German edition of the game.
They can be found here.

So in closing, I would rather play Forbidden Island as a quick filler than spend an hour playing Pandemic.
I may be in the minority though so take everything I have said with a grain of salt.
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Its best as a filler game or a portable game. It looks beautiful though and is easy to explain, so its great to play in public or around non-gamers.

I would trade it if you already have 'go-to' fillers.
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Papa Ninja wrote:
I guess I will be the desenting voice amongst the other gamers.
I own both games, and while Pandemic is more challenging it just hasn't clicked with is that much.
Pandemic is a game universally praised and while there is nothing mechanically wrong with the game, it just falls flat with me.

Forbidden Island, on the other hand, I quite enjoy.
But I do have children and my wife and I have never played it alone.
I find that the artwork is beautiful and the theme comes through in this game.
The treasure pieces are really cool, you want to be the one to get them.
The tiles have really nice art, and they are double sided (the flooded side is just blue and white).
This game is by no means a brain burner, but it is a fun little filler.
We can play a game in about a 1/2 hour, and if you start at the highest difficulty it can be a bit challenging especially depending on the roles you get.
Lastly, the thing that really helps this game are the variant tile set-ups that were only included on the German edition of the game.
They can be found here.

So in closing, I would rather play Forbidden Island as a quick filler than spend an hour playing Pandemic.
I may be in the minority though so take everything I have said with a grain of salt.


Will, I agree with you completely.

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I own both games. I enjoy both games; but, with different people.

So ... it depends on why you'd play each game.

I play Forbidden Island with my son and his cousins (age range 5 thru 8). Their realm of boardgames at the moment are: Forbidden Island, Catan Junior, Dixit, and ... most recently ... 7 Wonders.

I play Pandemic with the teens and adults; but it tends to be very rare. 7 Wonders is the new "hotness" in the group, except the kids demand it as well. We tend to drift to Carcassonne, Catan, Runebound, or Betrayal at House on a Hill ... depending on how much time / attention-span we have.
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Stormtower wrote:
I own both games. I enjoy both games; but, with different people.

So ... it depends on why you'd play each game.

I play Forbidden Island with my son and his cousins (age range 5 thru 8). Their realm of boardgames at the moment are: Forbidden Island, Catan Junior, Dixit, and ... most recently ... 7 Wonders.

I play Pandemic with the teens and adults; but it tends to be very rare. 7 Wonders is the new "hotness" in the group, except the kids demand it as well. We tend to drift to Carcassonne, Catan, Runebound, or Betrayal at House on a Hill ... depending on how much time / attention-span we have.


So is Forbidden Island more for kids, can it be challenging enough for a filler game with adults?
 
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I'll join Will's voice on this one. Gameplay is not always about strategy or complexity - Pandemic, as Will stated, is praised and mechanically sound. However, it failed to survive our game table after the second play. Why? My wife found the theme too depressing. End of story - after the wife says something like that, the whole thing gets boxed up and either collects dust or gets traded.

That said, we also have a couple of kids in the house… and, while they aren't old enough to play either game yet, it sounds like Forbidden Island may have a theme which is more compatible with our situation.
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We like both Pandemic and Forbidden Island. Forbidden Island IS great for kids, and playing with new or casual adult gamers...AND experienced gamers, especially as a filler between longer games--> If Forbidden Island gets too easy for you on the hardest level, use the alternate initial tile arrangements already mentioned in this thread. The artwork and pieces are very nice.
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Well, I can actually win Forbidden Island . . .
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We have both and we do not have kids. As others have said, the allure of FI is the short set up and play time. It gives a quality game experience for the time required. It's great for nights when we don't have a lot of time, but want to do something a bit more involved than play a round of Las Vegas or some other filler.

FI is also much more portable than Pandemic, making it easier to take with us when we travel. And, it's great for when our parents and siblings-in-law come to visit because they will actually play it. Can't say the same for Pandemic. Pandemic looks too scary for some non-gamers, I think, while FI just looks easier and friendlier.

We've yet to beat it on the hardest difficulty level, so it's not an "easy" game that you will always win. I think for the price you paid, you should keep it. I definitely think there is a place in an adult's collection for both. FI isn't a kids game, although it's easy to get kids to play it.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the release of Forbidden Desert this spring/summer to get some more colorful, quick, co-op goodness in my collection.
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I own both and love both. While both are coop games they play very differently and have different themes. I will admit though that if you are not a gamer or are at least interested in games Pandemic can look a little scary and put you off and I will also admit that Forbidden Island is a bit easier. Just because FI is easier though doesn't make it any less of a game. In fact sometimes you want to play something on the lighter side. It's a great game and great filler when you don't have a lot of time to burn or just need to kill time, and it's easy for non-gamers to grasp. My fiance has played it with me and she enjoyed it (she is not that big of a gamer).

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I have both and like both. They are very similar games that can fill slightly different roles.

Pandemic is more intense, has longer play time, has a more morbid theme, and is more intimidating to casual or non-gamers. FI sits better with younger gamers also.

I always find it funny that my group struggles to win FI, but tends to win more often than not in Pandemic. Everyone claims that Pandemic is, without a doubt, more difficult, but my group has a very different opinion.
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Cool, thanks for all the great input. I will give it a go this weekend. Being portable is a good option and I did download all the official and user created tile layout variants, this look interesting.

I appreciate all the feedback. I played Pandemic two times last night and list the first time one turn away from curing the fourth diseas when the player deck ran out. I beat it thr second time no problem, both times with two character. Is it always this easy?
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What difficulty were you playing it on? (How many epidemic cards did you use?)

It's easier with fewer players, IMO.
 
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monkeyhandz wrote:
What difficulty were you playing it on? (How many epidemic cards did you use?)

It's easier with fewer players, IMO.


4 epidemic cards with the researcher and scientist.
 
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To everyone who says that Forbidden Island is easy, I'd like to know which rule you're not following properly. There's no way that you can win that game every time on Legendary or Elite, unless you're playing it wrong.

EDIT: This thread says it much better than I could. This game is too easy ........ (or is it?)
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LunarSoundDesign wrote:
with two character. Is it always this easy?


Yes, especially when playing with two players. The game gets easier if there are less players. You might even say that 5 players on easy is harder than 2 players on medium.

lwdgames wrote:
To everyone who says that Forbidden Island is easy, I'd like to know which rule you're not following properly. There's no way that you can win that game every time on Legendary or Elite, unless you're playing it wrong.


I agree. I think Forbidden Island is harder than Pandemic.


Note that I always play with closed hands in Pandemic and Forbidden Island, no matter the difficulty. I really think this makes for a more fun game.
 
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