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What they actually seem to be discussing is making sure that the health care plans are subsidised, particularly for the lower paid employees.

Trying to make this seem like they are trying to exempt themselves from something everyone else has to do makes no sense. Many people have health plans subsidised by their employers.
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Wow. It's almost as if, when you dig deeper into the story, it's completely the opposite of what the OP implied.

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[...] What seemed on its face to be an attempt by Congress to seek special treatment under the law is actually an effort to resolve an ambiguity in the statute — one with deeply political origins — that could significantly cut lawmaker and staffer health benefits next year.

Though originally characterized in the press as a surreptitious and hypocritical effort by members of Congress to wiggle out of a provision of the law requiring them to buy insurance on Obamacare exchanges, it is more accurately a story about how the sorts of snafus that have hobbled Obamacare’s implementation are now coming home to roost on Capitol Hill.

“It’s not that Congress is thinking about exempting itself from the Affordable Care Act,” said Tim Jost, a professor of law at Washington and Lee University and leading expert on the health care reform law, which he supports. “It’s just that Congress members and staffers were the only people in the entire country who were required to buy from the exchange. So in a sense repealing that provision would be like leveling the playing field.”

Starting in 2014, thanks to an amendment Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) successfully inserted into the Affordable Care Act to put Democrats in a political bind, members of Congress and personal staff — not committee staff — will be dropped from their federal health plan and have to buy insurance on state exchanges, which will launch next year. [...]
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Drew1365 wrote:


Yep. They might fight for the cameras, but behind closed doors, these shitty piles of snail slime stick together while they screw over the rest of us.



Interestingly, I have yet to hear how you have been screwed over by Obamacare. Sure, it's probably because I tune out everything you say after a few seconds of exposure, but still, this seems like a case of one shitty pile of snail slime bitching based on an unsubstantiated claim about confidential talks.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/296333-dem-leaders-wont-se...
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By that logic we should also get rid of the Military since the government runs that too.
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What he really meant was that legit news sources are those that agree with his opinions. I've asked him previously for a list of those on his approved list, but he's never been forthcoming. Most likely because no single news source agrees with every thing he believes so his list is ever shifting.
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Drew1365 wrote:
TALKING POINTS MEMO IS A TOTALLY LEGIT NEWS SOURCE.

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Whether or not you like TPM, they quoted an expert from Washington and Lee University. Are you saying they made him up, fabricated his quote, or what? Or do you have some information or expertise that contradicts what he said about whats going on?

And leaving aside TPM's characterization of Grassley's motives, do you have any information or expertise to contradict the claim about Grassley's acts - i.e., that he inserted the amendment into the ACA that led to this particular situation that Congress is trying to deal with?
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Of course, this particular fooforaw may be a tempest in a teapot: OPM may rule that they can offer subsidies to staffers.


Which would be the best resolution. If they just changed the law to allow subsidising the staffers' health care, would that be terrible too?

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Tar and feathers.


Maybe wait until they actually pass something.
 
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I have no idea how anyone could read the first story and not believe that some members of congress are working to exempt congress and it's staff from some aspects of ObamaCare. It's as if all you Libtards care about is who wrote the story. Politicians only have secret meetings when what they are discussing is a politically sensitive matter.

"Leveling the field" isn't politically sensitive. Exempting themselves and thousands of other staffers due to onerous burdens imposed by ObamaCare? Now that is politically sensitive. I'll be emailing my senator and congressman today to see if any of them are party to this scam... it's as if the "ruling class" of America is saying, "Obamacare for thee, but not for me."
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I don't really care if they are trying to take a ridiculous provision out of the bill or not. Why are they wasting their time on something that affects such a small minority of the population (literally talking for MONTHS?) when they they have so much else on their plate that they aren't doing anything about? It's their do-no-meaningful-work strategy that pisses me off. I'd love to get up in arms about the things they are accomplishing, but since they don't accomplish anything, all I can get upset about is their comically criminal work ethic.
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jmilum wrote:
By that logic we should also get rid of the Military since the government runs that too.


Agreed. Government sucks.
 
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bjlillo wrote:
jmilum wrote:
By that logic we should also get rid of the Military since the government runs that too.


Oh really? Was the military set up by a bill that no one had read and was amended willy nilly from the floor without understanding the consequences?

That's not the issue though is it:

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These idiots can't even pass a simple amendment without screwing it up and you guys are more than happy to have them run our health care system.

What would you be happy having the government run?
 
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DWTripp wrote:
It's as if all you Libtards care about is who wrote the story.

You're going to cause Drew to go into apoplectic shock by calling him that as he was the one caring about who write what story:

Drew1365 wrote:
TALKING POINTS MEMO IS A TOTALLY LEGIT NEWS SOURCE.
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jmilum wrote:
What would you be happy having the government run?


Itself out of town.
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which town?
 
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Ahhh, that would be strange though as you would still have government in the villages, cities, and unincorporated areas. I don't see that as a workable solution.
 
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jmilum wrote:
Ahhh, that would be strange though as you would still have government in the villages, cities, and unincorporated areas. I don't see that as a workable solution.


See? I told you government sucks.
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bjlillo wrote:
Context is important, Jer-Bear. Reading, it's fundamental.

When you said "these idiots" who did you mean?
 
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a dog and pony show over the word "may"?


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from the link MrC posted earlier:

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“Nobody is exempting anybody from anything,” one Democratic aide said.

The healthcare law requires lawmakers and congressional staff to buy their healthcare coverage through the newly created insurance exchanges.

Democrats have raised questions about the mechanics of that requirement, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) both said Thursday they do not believe the mandate should be lifted.

Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson flatly denied a report that the majority leader had sought an exemption for lawmakers and their staffers.

“There are not now, have never been, nor will there ever be any discussions about exempting members of Congress or Congressional staff from Affordable Care Act provisions that apply to any employees of any other public or private employer offering health care,” Jentleson said.

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